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Georgia Tech Researchers Jailbreak iOS 7.1.2

timothy posted about a month ago | from the have-you-tried-bribing-the-guards? dept.

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mikejuk writes The constant war to jailbreak and patch iOS has taken another step in favor of the jailbreakers. Georgia Tech researchers have found a way to jailbreak the current version of iOS. What the Georgia Tech team has discovered is a way to break in by a multi-step attack. After analysing the patches put in place to stop previous attacks, the team worked out a sequence that would jailbreak any modern iPhone. The team stresses the importance of patching all of the threats, and not just closing one vulnerability and assuming that it renders others unusable as an attack method. It is claimed that the hack works with any iOS 7.1.2 using device including the iPhone 5s.
It is worth noting that the The Device Freedom Prize for an open source jailbreak of iOS7 is still unclaimed and stands at just over $30,000. The details are to be revealed at the forthcoming Black Hat USA (August 6 & 7 Las Vegas) in a session titled Exploiting Unpatched iOS Vulnerabilities for Fun and Profit:

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Why? (0, Troll)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about a month ago | (#47586053)

Jailbreaking was cool when there was no Personal Hotspot mode on the iPhone... and other things Apple's App Store didn't allow at first. Thing is, what's in the Apple-disapproved and really useful file for the unofficial app stores to offer?

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47586069)

Why? Because if it is my phone, I want control. I bought it, I get root acces.

Re:Why? (1)

thieh (3654731) | about a month ago | (#47586091)

Then comes apps that refuses to run on a jailbreaked phone, and then comes VM's/chroot's that will run those apps, ad nauseam...

Re:Why? (1)

Immerman (2627577) | about 2 months ago | (#47586341)

Why would an app refuse to run on a jailboken phone - unless it was made by Apple or your carrier specifically to try to incentivize you to stay on their leash.

Re:Why? (1)

dugancent (2616577) | about 2 months ago | (#47586361)

I know the DirecTV app won't run. I've ran across a game as well.

Re: Why? (2)

tysonedwards (969693) | about 2 months ago | (#47586549)

And there's other apps like Flex that gets around these restrictions with ease.

Re: Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47588267)

DRM is an obvious reason. If you have root access you can read and modify an apps data files. Another reason is security. If your phone is jail broken then malicious apps have more access to your sensitive data.

Re: Why? (0)

scarboni888 (1122993) | about 2 months ago | (#47588529)

If they want to own the phone then they shouldn't sell it to us!

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47588459)

Typically the reasoning is that 99.9% of people's reason for jailbreaking is to pirate apps, and that therefore the assumption is that if you're on a jailbroken phone, you've pirated it.

Re: Why? (4, Interesting)

Chewbacon (797801) | about 2 months ago | (#47586793)

Many of them evaluate the file system and determine the device is jailbroken. tsProtector fixes this by denying apps (you choose) file access. Makes apps that get cranky over jail breaking stfu and get back to work.

Re:Why? (1)

zr (19885) | about 2 months ago | (#47586163)

for vast majority of people jailbreak, in fact, constitutes loss of control.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47588109)

The #1 use for jailbraking.. an adblocking hosts file on the phone to get rid if the massive amount of ad's shoveled at you daily.

That alone delivers 9000% more control over your phone than anything else.

Re:Why? (1)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about 2 months ago | (#47586879)

Why do you need root access? What are you trying to install that isn't already there?

Re:Why? (4, Informative)

qpqp (1969898) | about 2 months ago | (#47586915)

I'll bite.
First and foremost: firewall [yllier.net] and SSHd, then: nginx, python, perl, java, haskell, adblocker, ... Also the ability to edit and customize (hidden) settings, hosts file, themes, go fuck yourself, it's my computer and I do what I want with it.

Re:Why? (0)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about 2 months ago | (#47586953)

It's not your computer, it's your cell phone. That's more dangerous. If you saturate your cable modem, only your family notices. If you saturate LTE by disabling a cap, then your whole community notices!

Re:Why? (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47586989)

It's not your computer, it's your cell phone.

An iPad comes with has the same restrictions as an iPhone. Or is the iPad not "your computer" either?

Re:Why? (2)

qpqp (1969898) | about 2 months ago | (#47587039)

Obviously, you're only supposed to consume fakebook and buy apps and music through it. Didn't you know? ;)
Don't ever try to use it as a portable ARM development board with multi-touch.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587275)

Don't ever try to use it as a portable ARM development board with multi-touch.

Oh, for that you'd buy a cheaper Android.

Re:Why? (1)

qpqp (1969898) | about 2 months ago | (#47587029)

It's not your computer, it's your cell phone.

Speak for yourself, please!
It might be a phone for you, for me, it's my portable, pocket-computer.
Please do elaborate on what cap you're talking about, but if I want to saturate LTE (which I'm not using, btw), I'll saturate LTE from my own pocket (no pun intended); with or without a jailbreak.

Re: Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587215)

By that reasoning you don't own the device, just use it. And that's applicable if you only rent it - and that means that when you no longer need it you should mail it to Apple HQ for replacement and disposal.

Re:Why? (1)

sjames (1099) | about 2 months ago | (#47587911)

If you saturate your cable modem, only your family notices. If you saturate LTE by disabling a cap, then your whole community notices!

Likewise if you mow the lawn at 3 AM or drive on the sidewalk. Solution: don't

Solution recognizing that some people are assholes: put the cap in the modem part, allow root for the main CPUs OS. If someone abuses the network anyway, lock them out and if necessary, fine them.

Re: Why? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587941)

You think a cell phone isn't a computer? Well, you're wrong. The latest flagship phones from any of the major vendors have as much power as a supercomputer did 20 years ago. If an early 90s Cray was a computer so is your iPhone.

I jailbreak for control, as others mentioned: Firewalls, ad blockers, tweaks, full-fledged BASH prompt, etc.
I also do it to find out what Apple is going to add to iOS in ~2 years. With every new major version most of the big features have available in Cydia for at least a year. Apple has admitted to getting feature ideas from the JB community and even hired a coupe of Jailbreak developers.

Don't want to jailbreak? Good. Don't bit don't get on my way.

There's no app for that (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47586997)

Why do you need root access? What are you trying to install that isn't already there?

I have compiled a list of such apps [pineight.com] . For example, MozStumbler [slashdot.org] could never be ported to iOS because Apple refuses to make available any public API for enumerating nearby SSIDs.

Re:Why? (0)

Elbart (1233584) | about 2 months ago | (#47587651)

Why buy a device with a broken OS which you have to fix yourself?

Re:Why? (2)

Lumpy (12016) | about 2 months ago | (#47588127)

Are you being an uneducated tool and trying to say that Android is perfect.... because anyone that has any clue knows better.

There is a reason I am running Cyanogenmod 11 DAILIES on my HTC ONE M8 and not the "perfect" android that HTC bastardized.

Android is broken as hell, not by Google's design, but by their fault for letting carriers and handset makers BREAK android.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47588539)

Where the fuck did you get all that from that statement? Jesus, sensitive much?

Re:Why? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47586211)

For me, sending messages and making calls with a google voice number. It's not good at all with the official app, and it works great if you're jailbroken and you buy the required jailbreak apps to do it.

Re:Why? (1)

CastrTroy (595695) | about 2 months ago | (#47586269)

You still can't get a NES emulator for iOS. Not sure if jailbreaking helps with this one though. The point is, there's a lot of apps that Apple won't allow to be published in the app store for one reason or another.

Re:Why? (1)

BitZtream (692029) | about 2 months ago | (#47586335)

Because playing NES games on a touch screen would be so awesome ... NOT.

The original point stands, nothing you'd actually want remains.

I understand the 'because its my phone and I should have the fucking ability to do with it what I want' aspect, and its a valid one, but once you get past that theres no real reason to jailbreak.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47586579)

"NES emulators" is a well known euphemism for piracy, doofus.

Re:Why? (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47587087)

How is it piracy to run any of these games [pineight.com] ?

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587347)

When can I play LockJaw on my NES emulator again?

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47586969)

That's why you hook up a WiiMote via Bluetooth, using the custom Bluetooth stack that had to be built for jailbroken iPhones because Apple cripples the bluetooth capabilities of its phone so much.

Get a JXD S5110B already (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47587023)

If you're going to hack up the operating system to pieces just to run an NES emulator, why not just run the emulator on an Android gaming tablet made by JXD in the first place?

Re:Why? (1)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about 2 months ago | (#47587037)

There hasn't been a legal NES game emulator yet.. Patents have lapsed, but nobody's done it without stealing code.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587887)

What kind of patents are you talking about?
The treaty for Integrated circuit layout design protection doesn't apply to circuits developed before 1990. India didn't join until 2000 and Brazil somewhere 2007.
You can clone the old chips as much as you like. Heck, even with the patents you are allowed to emulate them, the design patent laws regarding ICs is for direct clones of the stencil. Moving stuff around a bit makes it possible to sidestep it.
Nintendo might have patent claims, that doesn't mean that they have a legal basis for them.

Regarding code it can't be stolen. At most there can be copyright infringement going on but I've never seen anyone make a legit claim against that. Even in cases with closed source emulators that are based on older versions it appears as if the developers have the permission to use the code.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47586293)

My first computer was a Sinclair ZX-80. My second computer was a Commodore VIC 20. When I turned them on, they prompted me to program them. To me, a computer that fiercely fights attempts to program it is very difficult to comprehend. Which is why my phone and my tablet run Android.

Re:Why? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47586591)

Facepalm. Just use a PC if you want to program.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47586799)

You do realize the ZX-80 and VIC 20 were both released in 1980 and short lived as they both were is irrelevant if your idea of a PC is what I think it is. The first version of Windows with a GUI interface did not come around until 1985ish.

Re:Why? (1)

ruir (2709173) | about 2 months ago | (#47587097)

ZX- and Commodore where *very* relevant, introduced generations to code, where architectures that you could fully grasp, and totally control. They had graphics far earlier than PCs. The concepts still live with many of us, professionals in they industry, and the processors are still used nowadays in the micro controlling industry. And many of us where cutting out teeth in unix and graphical interfaces before that piece of shit you talk from microsoft came along.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587351)

Calm down, buddy. I'm pretty sure he's saying the shortness of their lifespan was irrelevant, not the machines themselves.

Re:Why? (1)

ruir (2709173) | about 2 months ago | (#47587115)

My first was a ZX-Spectrum 48K. Amazing machine, I knew it from the inside out, and programmed it into machine code almost like talking my mother tongue. I went out later on, and my final project was the first ZX Spectrum emulator for Windows.

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47586303)

f.lux https://justgetflux.com/

Re: Why? (3, Informative)

i_ate_god (899684) | about 2 months ago | (#47586499)

I have an ipad. Full file system access is my number one reason for jail breaking. I can access any file on the device, share folders on a samba server, access any file on the sdcard reader.

Now I can actually upload nef files from.my Nikon camera.

Re:Why? (1)

Cramer (69040) | about 2 months ago | (#47586701)

what's in the Apple-disapproved and really useful file for the unofficial app stores to offer?

- Apps to enable the f'ing hotspot that the greedy as hell service provider won't allow you to turn on. (without paying them some idiotic fee to allow me to use my already capped data however I d*** well please.)
- Full filesystem access
- Add bluetooth capabilities Apple doesn't think anyone needs
- WiFi scanning apps
(I could go on...)

Re:Why? (1)

The New Guy 2.0 (3497907) | about 2 months ago | (#47586935)

(I could go on...)

Please do so... we need this list!

Re:Why? (1)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 2 months ago | (#47587573)

pr0n. don't forget pr0n. the apple app store doesn't allow pr0n and similar apps. yes please!

Re: Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47588345)

It still has a web browser. Why do you need a dedicated porn app?

A different service provider (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47587031)

I'm not ready to speak to other items on your list, but for the first, you could always switch to a different service provider that isn't "greedy as hell". It's not like the early days when AT&T had a monopoly on the iPhone.

Re:A different service provider (1)

Cramer (69040) | about 2 months ago | (#47587101)

Right, because Verizon doesn't do this, or AT&T, or Sprint, or T-mobile. Bottom line, every major cellular operator in the US does this.

Verizon was spanked litely for this. Yet they still do it. However, they aren't allowed to stop you from loading apps to enable it anyway. Except on an Apple device, where the provider lock cannot be broken on a stock device.

Re:A different service provider (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587147)

Right, because Verizon doesn't do this, or AT&T, or Sprint, or T-mobile. Bottom line, every major cellular operator in the US does this.

Verizon was spanked litely for this. Yet they still do it. However, they aren't allowed to stop you from loading apps to enable it anyway. Except on an Apple device, where the provider lock cannot be broken on a stock device.

What are you talking about? Verizon iOS devices all have the mobile hotspot and have since the iPhone 5 came out on Verizon.

T-Mobile plans already include tethering (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47588349)

T-Mobile plans already include tethering according to T-Mobile's page [t-mobile.com] .

Re:Why? (1)

XaXXon (202882) | about 2 months ago | (#47587509)

i'm not paying extra to use the data I paid for how I want. AT&T wants me to. Jailbreak.

Re:Why? (1)

XaXXon (202882) | about 2 months ago | (#47587513)

also I have no real choice in my selection of provider.

Easy As 1 (-1, Troll)

sexconker (1179573) | about a month ago | (#47586061)

Circumventing the restrictions in iOS is as easy as 1.
1: Buy a better phone.

Re:Easy As 1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47586349)

It's Nexus or nothing. Fuck Samsung

Re:Easy As 1 (3, Insightful)

fightermagethief (3645291) | about 2 months ago | (#47586365)

What is the alternative? I own an Android device and it has gone to crap. Android is like the Windows of mobile OS's now. I have game apps that are single player rpg's that shouldn't need a network connection for anything that ask for generic permissions to access basically everything the phone can do. I would have to root my phone to get finer control over these permissions and to remove all the bloat crap. My last Android phone that I rooted and customized went to shit on battery life. Google voice search activates just by moving around when my phone is in my pocket and I have headphones on, and I can't uninstall it. I only have the option to uninstall the updates to all the bloat. What use is that! I am seriously considering trying an actual Windows phone.

Re:Easy As 1 (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | about 2 months ago | (#47586431)

If you customized your phone and made it worse, clearly the issue is that you suck at customizing. This time, try rooting the phone, removing the bloat, voice search, and excessive app permissions, and then don't add any other crap back.

Re:Easy As 1 (1)

fightermagethief (3645291) | about 2 months ago | (#47586487)

Yes, I haven't managed to write any custom ROMS, much less one that manages the battery better than the stock system. The same can be said for the folks at CyanogenMod because that is what screws the battery life, at least as of about a year ago. As far as just rooting, I am wary of doing that to the phone without full knowledge of what kind of new security issues this will open up. This shouldn't be necessary to having a usable device that would be fine if you took out the greed factor of what Android has become.

Re:Easy As 1 (1)

Fwipp (1473271) | about 2 months ago | (#47586561)

Yo. Just don't install the apps that need too many permissions. Then you don't gotta root your phone, and you won't fuck up your battery life.

Sorry that you explicitly said "give me control" and proceeded to trash it.

Just don't install the apps (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47587053)

Yo. Just don't install the apps that need too many permissions.

That's like saying "Just don't install the apps". Most apps not on F-Droid need a buttload of permissions just to run. And if it's a game, it almost certainly isn't on F-Droid.

Re:Easy As 1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47588137)

Please tell me how to uninstall all the HTC and AT&T baked in apps you cant "uninstall"

Re: Easy As 1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47588353)

Root it first then use something like titanium backup.

Re:Easy As 1 (1)

Cramer (69040) | about 2 months ago | (#47586767)

BS. You had to root it to get CM loaded. You could've stopped with rooting the stock firmware and used any of the HUNDREDS of apps and tweaks to disable the vendor bloat and security. (are we talking Samsung and KNOX perhaps. There are entire corners of the internet devoted to that shit.)

Xposed (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47587045)

If CyanogenMod screws your Android device's battery life, you could always root your stock ROM and install Xposed Framework, which runs on top of your existing ROM.

Re:Xposed (1)

Lumpy (12016) | about 2 months ago | (#47588141)

If CM screws your battery life, then adjust the performance settings to get it back. I easily got back my 2 day battery life on the M8 by simply going into the settings and restoring them to being over the top conservative.

Re:Xposed (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47588383)

Unless none of the performance settings in the relevant version of CM offer comparable battery consumption to stock. I imagine that some power saving technologies in some devices might not have suitable drivers in CM.

Re:Easy As 1 (1)

Cramer (69040) | about 2 months ago | (#47586751)

By "customizing" he means "loaded CM on it" (or someother AOSP based build) that doesn't know how to be efficient.

Re:Easy As 1 (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47586823)

Same. Every Android phone I've tried sucked, especially the battery life. cyanogenmod is definitely no help. It makes my Samsung battery go flat in a day and a half in standby mode! Windows phone is a joke (I wouldn't want of one for free), so that means I'll have to buy an iPhone next if I want a usable battery life I guess!

Re:Easy As 1 (1)

Elbart (1233584) | about 2 months ago | (#47587655)

Why is this rated -1?

Why buy a product that you're going to jailbreak? (2, Interesting)

ottawanker (597020) | about a month ago | (#47586075)

When are people going to stop buying products that they feel the need to jailbreak instead of buying unlocked or open alternatives? Keep rewarding the bad behaviour that you don't like, and you'll just get more of the same, except locked down even better.

Re:Why buy a product that you're going to jailbrea (1)

thieh (3654731) | about a month ago | (#47586139)

Is that odd to say people want the option of jailbreak, not necessary right now? They might just want to exercise the choice at their own pleasure.

at least Iphone is now unlocked (1, Informative)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 2 months ago | (#47586223)

at least Iphone is now unlocked

not like the past where it was ATT only and roaming was $20 a MEG!!!

Re:Why buy a product that you're going to jailbrea (2)

MrEdofCourse (2670081) | about 2 months ago | (#47586583)

"Why?"

Because I'd rather have an iPhone than any other phone and an iPad than any other tablet. If they have to be jailed, then so be it. On the other hand, once I get my device, it's just that much better when it's jailbroken. I'm not rewarding bad behavior. Apple made their choice of how they wanted the platform to be, and most people are perfectly fine with that choice. My personal protest to the contrary wouldn't change one thing.

Re:Why buy a product that you're going to jailbrea (3, Interesting)

pla (258480) | about 2 months ago | (#47586987)

When are people going to stop buying products that they feel the need to jailbreak instead of buying unlocked or open alternatives?

As soon as my employer decides to offer a choice other than "windows or IOS", I'll take it.

Until then, jailbreaking remains the only option.

Re:Why buy a product that you're going to jailbrea (3, Interesting)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 2 months ago | (#47587743)

When are people going to stop buying products that they feel the need to jailbreak instead of buying unlocked or open alternatives? Keep rewarding the bad behaviour that you don't like, and you'll just get more of the same, except locked down even better.

Because the open alternatives well, suck. I've tried Android, and while ICS and JB are nice, they're also way too busy and don't work the way I want them to. Yes, I'm a geek, I love all the billion options it gives me to control it, but damn, I just want to use my phone as a phone. I don't want or care about themes, dynamic backgrounds, wallpapers, etc.

Plus, I like the way iOS works. Android's got it's own UI, and I find I dislike it (it's gotten a lot better now, but the back button always throws me for a loop because I'm used to seeing back at the top left, while the back button is always at the bottom).

Then there's whole Google thing. Sorry, Google's business plan involves gathering as much user information as possible.

Finally - while iTunes sucks, there's a bunch of utility it provides, like backups. I can download IPA files on iTunes and install them on my iOS devices - even if the app gets banned or whatever, as long as I have a local copy, I can install it. Apple hasn't blocked any apps from running, nor have they force-removed apps. And iTunes backups DO work. Backing up on Android? Well, you have Ti Backup and other apps, but nothing by default. Hell, even iCloud backups work. Android backups for me just mean all my apps get reinstalled, but I lose all my data. Thanks, Google.

Then there's the whole penis^H^H^H^H^Hscreen size thing. I find this enlarging screen size trend disappointing - I want a decent screen, decent CPU, decent RAM, and that entails buying flagships which are growing faster than the American waistline. I mean sure, 441dpi is a bit too much for me (I don't use the phone to my nose), so the 325-ish DPI of the "retina" display is perfectly adequate. Plus, I want real RGB, not pentile crap, and proper color calibration (AMOLED is impressive, but the colors generally oversaturate and are inaccurate). Android is rapidly moving away from being useful to me as an alternative.

Sure if I wanted open I could use Linux, but Linux desktops are just plain old fugly to me. I develop on Linux, using Windows as a front end (X server for the odd X app, but otherwise a bunch of SSH windows and samba serving files for Gvim for Windows).

Again, it's all personal preferences, and I know lots of people don't work that way.

As for jailbreaking, well, the only must-have app I have on iOS is iP Firewall. It lets me control apps use of network - so I block ad servers and the like. (Yes, Android has the same functionality if you root).

Estimates have around 10% of iOS users jailbreak, and unfortunately, it seems the largest use of jailbreaks are... installing pirated apps.

Re:Why buy a product that you're going to jailbrea (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587899)

The vast majority of iOS users don't feel the need to jailbreak. I suppose your question was directed at the .05 % of users.

Yes, they have a lot of explaining to do.

Re:Why buy a product that you're going to jailbrea (3, Insightful)

Lumpy (12016) | about 2 months ago | (#47588157)

Because they dont exist.

All android phones are locked you have to root them to unlock them, and it's pretty much a similar amount of work. And now you have the Bullshit of S-ON and S-OFF on most android phones that requires you to use exploits to set Security off.

Even buying a 100% unlocked version of the phone.... S-ON is set and you STILL have to exploit it to unlock it.

So please tell me what phone can I buy that I already have root, and there is no security at all on the phone to stop me from installing whatever I want or whatever OS I want. Because they just do not exist outside of developer edition short run.

Extremely Useful (2)

macs4all (973270) | about a month ago | (#47586101)

Considering iOS7 is about to be replaced any day now.
In Other News, Exploit gives unlimited Lives in Doom.

Re: Extremely Useful (1)

Chewbacon (797801) | about 2 months ago | (#47586811)

Agreed. GA failed lesson one in jailbreak release 101: wait until the next major release comes out before you give away the exploit.

Re: Extremely Useful (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587055)

That only applies if the exploit is for the version that hasn't been released yet (like iOS 8 for instance) so that you don't give them a chance to patch it before the final release. The OP is saying that a 7.1.2 exploit will in fact be useless once Apple stops allowing people to install 7.1.2. You missed his sarcasm and "agreed" with the exact opposite of his point.

Re: Extremely Useful (1)

plover (150551) | about 2 months ago | (#47587473)

Agreed. GA failed lesson one in jailbreak release 101: wait until the next major release comes out before you give away the exploit.

Actually, they figured out Advanced Jailbreak Releasing 301: advertise the hell out of the version that has been jailbroken, but give Apple no clue as to how to fix it. Allow as many as people as possible to download and install 7.1.2 in preparation for jailbreaking.

Apple's pattern of responding to jailbreaks is very predictable: the day after someone announces the jailbreak, Apple will spring into action, releasing a patched version, and immediately preventing anyone from downloading or installing the now-vulnerable 7.1.2. This advertising campaign maximizes the vulnerability window in a way that Apple cannot yet prevent.

Aaaaand it's outdated (0)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47586109)

iOS 8 Betas are in full swing. Say what you will about Apple but I'm looking forward to a free major release upgrade that's full of new features and improvements. I got a lot of really good life out of my four and there's no reason I wont' see the same out of my 5s.

I like android too but we all know getting major release updates always happens 6-12 months after the fact, if it every happens. Which it usually does not. I actually sold my ipad and purchased the 2013 nexus 7. (Notice how I picked up the ONLY device that will ever see lots of regular factory updates?) Just picked up the Nvidia sheild tablet too - That's a fun toy with lots of promise.

25+ Year Mac User Says Why Apple Sux (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | about a month ago | (#47586117)

Holy Lordy!

http://www.reddit.com/r/MacSuc... [reddit.com]

why? isn't 7.1.2 already jail broken... (2, Informative)

blahbooboo (839709) | about 2 months ago | (#47586161)

Congrats on jailbreaking an os which is already jail broken?

Re:why? isn't 7.1.2 already jail broken... (2)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about 2 months ago | (#47586217)

Yup, the Pangu team jailbroke 7.1.2 several weeks ago (I'm typing this on a jailbroken iPad Mini, actually).

Why jailbreak? (2)

Hecatonchires (231908) | about 2 months ago | (#47586329)

A browser that supports userscript extensions (greasemonkey). Bookmarklet just aren't good enough.

Mostly Off-topic (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587167)

Jailbreak your e-ink Kindle to (1) change the ridiculous margin settings and (2) play interactive fiction (Zork, et al). The saddest part is that in trying to "protect" users that invariably all they do is encourage users to entirely bypass said protection or learn to live with whatever crippled, half-assed interface they develop. And I say this knowing full well that often enough what comes out of open source development is its own crippled, half-assed interface. But the very fact that you can change an open system means you have the opportunity to find an interface that works and for competition to naturally provide for the best interfaces to come to the surface.

Market place of ideas and all that. Nah, let's live in a walled garden. Like the Chinese enjoy.

Yet another reason CONservatives hate GT (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47586687)

I attended for two years, and I got spit on twice by Republicans. They hate that school because smart people go there. Their kind hates anything intellectual. Several churches had protests at the math building while I went there. Unfortunately I failed out, but the hatred Republicans have for education and for anyone that can read has stuck with me. That is the way of their kind. They hate those of us that can read. That is why they work so hard to try t make it illegal to teach females to read.

Don't they have better things to do? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47586893)

They could be researching how to improve Internet security, fix the USB firmware security problem, build better encryption schemes, create artificial intelligence, etc. Why waste time on a fashion phone, when they could be doing real work to help the world?

Calling APK (1)

tepples (727027) | about 2 months ago | (#47587065)

Jailbreaking does "improve Internet security" by letting a device's owner install a DNS blacklist [pineight.com] .

Has Verizon gotten wise to MyWi? (1)

RogueWarrior65 (678876) | about 2 months ago | (#47587081)

Anyone notice that MyWi data rates are practically unusable now while Apple's regular mail and Safari apps have no trouble at all? Is it possible that Verizon can tell when you're trying to use your data plan through MyWi?

Re:Has Verizon gotten wise to MyWi? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587223)

Anyone notice that MyWi data rates are practically unusable now while Apple's regular mail and Safari apps have no trouble at all? Is it possible that Verizon can tell when you're trying to use your data plan through MyWi?

Actually, it is. Usually they check to see whether you're using a mobile browser to see if you're tethering. T-Mobile did this at one point for me, anyway.

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etunescafe (3772635) | about 2 months ago | (#47587457)

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Why bother? (1, Informative)

Sir Holo (531007) | about 2 months ago | (#47587591)

Really, why bother?

You can buy an unlocked iPhone directly from Apple these days.

Re:Why bother? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587663)

Really, why bother?

You can buy an unlocked iPhone directly from Apple these days.

You can buy an unlocked iPhone directly from Apple these days.

Jailbreak is not the same as an unlock.

Pangu (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 2 months ago | (#47587979)

Isn't the Pangu jailbreak already capable to jb iOS 7.12?

Maybe it doesn't count, because they install some nastyware on your phone, but...

Perfect Scam (0)

scarboni888 (1122993) | about 2 months ago | (#47588543)

All the disadvantages of renting and all the disadvantges of owning are yours when you purchase a walled-garden iOS device!

Remember in 1984 when Apple had that superbowl-commercial against 'big brother'?

Yeah well that was a promotion for THEIR freedom, not yours or mine.

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