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Apple WWDC 2014: Tim Cook Unveils Yosemite

samzenpus posted about 4 months ago | from the latest-and-greatest dept.

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An anonymous reader writes "Apple's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) has started, and OS X 10.10, officially named Yosemite, and iOS 8 have been officially unveiled. Craig Federighi, senior vice president of software engineering, also highlighted iCloud Drive. Although a little late to the party, Apple hopes to compete with the likes of Dropbox and Google Drive."

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Newness overload (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148605)

I've just finished watching this. There were so many new features introduced that I have no idea how other companies are going to compete with this. I bet that one year in the future, they won't have even 25% of those features matched.

Re:Newness overload (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148665)

Too many features take away from the real user experience, IMHO. Too many users are caught up in their devices and not concerned enough with how their devices can be used to enhance their lives instead of owning their lives.

Re:Newness overload (2)

jythie (914043) | about 4 months ago | (#47148979)

It depends on how critical the new features are. Chances are many of the new features will only apply to a certain number of use cases, so it could be that they are spreading the features around, thus it would not be 'too many' for any given individual.

Re:Newness overload (2, Insightful)

tuppe666 (904118) | about 4 months ago | (#47148677)

I've just finished watching this. There were so many new features introduced that I have no idea how other companies are going to compete with this. I bet that one year in the future, they won't have even 25% of those features matched.

I can only imagine this is sarcasm, many of these features are 8 years old or more on competing platforms. Widgets; Transparency, Cloud integration, (Real) Cross Platform tools (not single Platform, and updated mail and browser application oooh. those are the broad stokes...Look over there they now use Bing, Microsoft outbidded Google Apple users will be so happy.

Re:Newness overload (0)

mspohr (589790) | about 4 months ago | (#47148971)

Wow!
I just can't believe how Apple is leading the pack! I can now use Bing!
This is a real breakthrough. It will take years for all of those other lamers to catch up.

Re: Newness overload (0, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149019)

Widgets are an Apple innovation. Introduced in 2006 with Tiger. Before Windows and Linux. Troll harder.

Re: Newness overload (0)

michelcolman (1208008) | about 4 months ago | (#47149085)

I was going to point out the fact that Apple stole the idea of Widgets from Konfabulator, but then I realised you were obviously being ironic.

Re: Newness overload (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149241)

Widgets? You mean Desk Accessories?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desk_accessory

Re:Newness overload (3, Insightful)

jovius (974690) | about 4 months ago | (#47149105)

Apple's strategy is not no overwhelm, but to keep the users on an IV drip. And it works; they seem to listen. It stirs up emotions from side to side. It keeps the old users using the products. And more and more it becomes easier for the users of the other platforms to make a switch. Just when the same features have grown old Apple introduces them with their own extra twist and as a companions of their design. There's nothing wrong with that, and judging from the bottom line many of those features were not profitably executed.

Anyway it's not about the OS anymore, because anybody is able to seamlessly mix operating systems and their native applications together now. It's about the experience and the integration.

Re: Newness overload (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148715)

They have a lot of catching up to do, so expect the release of these capabilities over an extended period of time. Others will not only catch up, but leapfrog Apple. Development, for the world's largest companies, is not an overnight event. It takes time to culturally change their approach. That holds true for other companies of similar size.

Re:Newness overload (2)

NotDrWho (3543773) | about 4 months ago | (#47148809)

I almost came in my pants watching it. But then, I have a very specific GUI improvement fetish that most (especially YOU, Dr. Swartz!) just don't understand.

Mods need to get over their sensitivities (1)

mozumder (178398) | about 4 months ago | (#47149305)

If you think this is 'flame bait' then you really need to get a grip on your narcissism.

The things you think are important aren't important to other people, and you'll have to do a better job of moderating so that you appeal to what other people think are important, instead of what YOU think is important.

So get over your sensitivities, princess.

It's about time (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148619)

The current implementation of iCloud is terrible.
 
And Slashdot Beta still sucks.

Like GNU Linux/Google Cloud years Ago..or Vista! (0, Troll)

tuppe666 (904118) | about 4 months ago | (#47148625)

Widgets - (Store Only) how Retro; Linux users are like WTF and Vista users finally can have a laugh!

Transparency +Dark Theme...Seriously WTF as a member of Gnome Looks Dark themes group seriously...Seriously though rock like its window compositing on linux in 2006...Again Vista Users are now very confused.

Safari(With Bing?) Mail improvements, More Lock in/Cloud(At a price). Single platform...slight at google, costly cloud applications, even with a few tweaks...like a clone of the awesomebar, and a nice payout from Bing, an updated engine...we have yet to see anything like Steve jobs prediction...no wonder he looks sad http://blog.urbanbohemian.com/ [urbanbohemian.com] ... [urbanbohemian.com]

The only...only positive thing here is free upgrades

Re:Like GNU Linux/Google Cloud years Ago..or Vista (4, Insightful)

armanox (826486) | about 4 months ago | (#47148727)

My gripe is the flat look that's getting pushed into OS X. I'm seriously tired of this plague. I happen to like my 3D composited desktops.

Re:Like GNU Linux/Google Cloud years Ago..or Vista (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148733)

Yeah, we get it, you hate Apple. Thanks for the semi-coherent input.

Re:Like GNU Linux/Google Cloud years Ago..or Vista (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148813)

I loved the Apple ][+.

Re:Like GNU Linux/Google Cloud years Ago..or Vista (1)

HornWumpus (783565) | about 4 months ago | (#47148889)

and the Lisa.

Re:Like GNU Linux/Google Cloud years Ago..or Vista (1)

thsths (31372) | about 4 months ago | (#47149183)

Apple ][e is what you need - with a CPM card.

Re:Like GNU Linux/Google Cloud years Ago..or Vista (-1, Flamebait)

BasilBrush (643681) | about 4 months ago | (#47149015)

tuppe666, I'm glad you took the time to watch the 2 hour video stream. You must really like Apple to spend that time on it.

Re: Like GNU Linux/Google Cloud years Ago..or Vist (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149033)

Wrong. Widgets were copied by Linux and Vista. Apple did them first with Tiger. Troll harder.

Re: Like GNU Linux/Google Cloud years Ago..or Vist (0)

fyngyrz (762201) | about 4 months ago | (#47149249)

Konfabulator.

Idiot.

Re: Like GNU Linux/Google Cloud years Ago..or Vist (0)

ganjadude (952775) | about 4 months ago | (#47149291)

once again an apple fanboi is convinced that apple invented something they in fact did not invent. widgets were out a long time before tiger Konfabulator for example

Re:Like GNU Linux/Google Cloud years Ago..or Vista (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149091)

Oh dear god. Someone who works on Gnome knocking another company for "copying" what's already been done.

Tired of one year release cycle (5, Insightful)

bradrum (1639141) | about 4 months ago | (#47148647)

I am tired of this every year release cycle. Wish they would take a couple of years and swing for the fences on their software.

Its Killer Feature (3, Insightful)

tuppe666 (904118) | about 4 months ago | (#47148815)

I am tired of this every year release cycle. Wish they would take a couple of years and swing for the fences on their software.

Actually I love the idea of regular releases...and free ones too. Ignoring my slights in my other posts the fact that upgrades are free and regular, makes overpriced Apple hardware seem a little more affordable...If I was a new Apple phone user, and found I liked a lot there...and there is a lot to like, I would be tempted to Migrate to a shiny machine...Although you would have to claw Linux running on commodity hardware out of my bleeding hands first.

Re:Its Killer Feature (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148915)

until recently the upgrades haven't been free, they brake compatibility too often.

as the admin of a mac shop, i am constantly plauged by building working images for our corporate tools then finding when i go to get new hardware to replace damaged machines or accomodate new users, barely even older version of os x can't be installed on the newer hardware and you can count on apple not to release stand alone drivers.

I used to love Apple, then i was forced to work with them they're fun toys but terrible tools

don't break cs 6 (0)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 4 months ago | (#47149045)

As people don't want to pay mouth to month to keep useing the apps and the not to long ago outage makes people not want to have to trust that the cloud will be working when you need it.

Also in some places it's easier to pay for / expense an perpetual license vs an mouth to mouth one.

Re:Its Killer Feature (2)

bradrum (1639141) | about 4 months ago | (#47148939)

I like the idea of free regular releases too. But the reality is that they don't seem to be able to break much technical ground with these. Like moving to ZFS or integrating virtual reality (kinda serious) .

I agree...but (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | about 4 months ago | (#47149115)

I like the idea of free regular releases too. But the reality is that they don't seem to be able to break much technical ground with these. Like moving to ZFS or integrating virtual reality (kinda serious) .

Yes...but it allows those same large features to be rolled out sooner...regressions fixed...blah blah blah. In reality many programs are rolled out several times a year. Safari got a massive improvement this release(it had the largest share of news)...firefox/chrome will simply carry on adding features and releasing several times this year.

Re:Tired of one year release cycle (1)

BasilBrush (643681) | about 4 months ago | (#47149103)

Multi-year release schedules make for big changes but don't allow you to check back with your users that they are happy with the direction.

e.g. Windows Vista - 6 years. People hated it.
Windows 7 - 2 years. Better than Vista.
Windows 8 - 3 years. People hated it.
Windows 8.1 - 1 year. Significant improvements on Windows 8.

Re:Tired of one year release cycle (1)

bradrum (1639141) | about 4 months ago | (#47149267)

Constantly evaluating wether a user likes the changes you have made makes for mediocre software. Apple has made some huge changes, System 7, OS X, iMac, and iPhone.all huge risks and has great success with those. Sure big failures are baked in there too, but they Apple has shone when they have taken big chances.

Microsoft dedicates itself to customers that don't like many changes.

Yosemite (2, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148663)

Confusion with the Blue & White G3 codename in 3... 2... 1...

Re:Yosemite (4, Insightful)

kthreadd (1558445) | about 4 months ago | (#47148737)

I don't think that's going to be a problem. 99+ % of Mac users probably have no idea what a blue and white G3 is, and the rest knows enough to differentiate the two.

A new programming language (4, Interesting)

eminencja (1368047) | about 4 months ago | (#47148687)

Yosemite will feature a new icon set. A bigger news is Swift, a new, safe programming language with type inference. Anyone who is able to find a language reference manual (supposedly available on iBooks) will get a lot of mod points.

Off-topic Maybe (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | about 4 months ago | (#47148761)

Swift and its replacement for OpenGL a great but different topic. I am not sure yet why platform specific tools will make a difference when cross platform...is the new platform, especially when Android is now the worlds number one platform after unseating Windows last year, and chasm between it and iOS is set to grow. Personally I'm waiting for the news of proprietary extensions certain BSD codebases by Apple...again, with the inevitable defending by fruit lovers.

Re:Off-topic Maybe (4, Insightful)

bradrum (1639141) | about 4 months ago | (#47148825)

As someone who has worked on several cross platform toolkits I can say that

"cross platform...is the new platform" == marketing bullshit

Re:Off-topic Maybe (2)

jythie (914043) | about 4 months ago | (#47149005)

In a way, it is almost preferable that they start taking away the illusion of cross platform tools and be honest about it.

Qt (5, Informative)

fyngyrz (762201) | about 4 months ago | (#47149293)

It's not that much of an illusion. Qt's done some useful work there. I've written one app, quite complex, that runs under both Windows and OSX. The only serious work I had to do was related to USB support, which Qt really hasn't addressed worth a darn. Everything else, though, is just a recompile specifying the target. Sound, networking, file system, GUI and lower level graphics, etc. The apps are a little less efficient, working as they must through a compatibility layer, but they're efficient enough to do the job at hand on even moderately recent hardware, so I'm pretty happy with the whole approach.

Humble Bundle With Android 10 (1)

tuppe666 (904118) | about 4 months ago | (#47149007)

"cross platform...is the new platform" == marketing bullshit

I have been playing https://www.humblebundle.com/ [humblebundle.com] Humble Bundle PC and Android...are all those games available on iOS too, can you install them? At least you can still run them on OS X for now.

Seriously 10 or as fruit lovers say X

Re:Humble Bundle With Android 10 (1)

BasilBrush (643681) | about 4 months ago | (#47149279)

For the latest HumbleBundle, they choose some games that were available on both PC and Android.

If instead you wanted to make a different list of games that are available on PC and iOS, you could easily do so.

Thus the games in the HumbleBundle say precisely nothing about cross-compatibility. It does say something about the business model of HumbleBundle though.

Re:Off-topic Maybe (3, Insightful)

larry bagina (561269) | about 4 months ago | (#47149025)

Cross platform is wearing three condoms and then butt fucking, to abstract away the differences between men and women. It's usually a shitty experience for the user (though some people seem to prefer it).

Re:Off-topic Maybe (1)

bradrum (1639141) | about 4 months ago | (#47149181)

Lol unfortunately that is an apt metaphor. I would say it is also like making love while wearing full body latex condoms (the kind in the naked gun) smothering any of the uniqueness that different hardware and their APIs might give you.

Re:Off-topic Maybe (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149297)

Cross platform is wearing three condoms and then butt fucking, to abstract away the differences between men and women. It's usually a shitty experience for the user (though some people seem to prefer it).

This best describes every HTML app ever.

Re:Off-topic Maybe (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 4 months ago | (#47148843)

If the numbers shown in the Keynote are true, only 10% of Android users run Kit Kat. Most users are stuck with versions that are three or four years old. Given that software updates are sometimes controlled by the cellphone companies, it's not a good situation either for those users.

And telling them to "install cyanogenmod" will get you blank stares. A phone is just a tool for most people, not something to mess around with.

Re:Off-topic Maybe (1)

Brit_in_the_USA (936704) | about 4 months ago | (#47148899)

Doesn't matter so much any more. ~99% of active (in use) android devices run v2.3 or above and so get the latest version of Google play services, updated every few weeks (not once a year). Google seems to be pointing developers to target the play services API's in place of newer OS level API's.

Re:Off-topic Maybe (2)

mrchaotica (681592) | about 4 months ago | (#47149079)

Google seems to be pointing developers to target the play services API's in place of newer OS level API's.

You say this as if it were a good thing, but it isn't.

Re:Off-topic Maybe (1)

dasacc22 (1830082) | about 4 months ago | (#47148935)

kit kat distribution is 8.5% and those numbers are published by Google https://developer.android.com/... [android.com] As an android developer, I can say that targetting 4.0.3 and higher isn't too big of a deal, regardless of how a user feels about the version they are on. Many new features developed are thrown into the support libraries that end up packaged with the app, and its a rarity to come across something needed from a higher api that's not backported. As an android user, my primary phone is stuck on 4.3 (galaxy nexus) and it really doesn't matter.

Cherry Pick Stats (-1, Troll)

tuppe666 (904118) | about 4 months ago | (#47148977)

If the numbers shown in the Keynote are true, only 10% of Android users run Kit Kat. Most users are stuck with versions that are three or four years old.

Ignoring the Low class moves of attacking Android, a platform that continues in hypergrowth while Apple continues to fall behind...Peak Happle happened in 2012. The best thing iOS 8 will not be available in the STILL ON SALE iPhone 4. That is a big fuck you from Apple to its customers.

Re:Off-topic Maybe (2)

mean pun (717227) | about 4 months ago | (#47148907)

Why do you think Swift is platform specific? I think it is will almost certainly not be; Apple will be more interested in getting the new language adopted rather than locking in people. Therefore at least the core language is very likely to be neutral. In fact, there is a pretty good chance it will be available through the llvm channels, and have a BSD license.

Metal is more likely to be platform specific because the goal is to give more direct access to the hardware.

Re:Off-topic Maybe (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149149)

Apple Developer Page - https://developer.apple.com/swift/
Welcome to Swift (Guides and Reference) - https://developer.apple.com/library/ios/welcome_to_swift
The Swift Programming Language (iBooks Store) - https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/the-swift-programming-language/id881256329?mt=11

Re:Off-topic Maybe (1)

BasilBrush (643681) | about 4 months ago | (#47149213)

It's time for Apple to move on to a new language, as Objective-C bears the marks of having evolved over many years, and still suffers from many of the design snafus of C.

Yet whatever language they move to must be completely compatible with Objective-C, such that the existing libraries still work, and existing projects can simply add new classes in the new language and keep the existing stuff in Obj-C.

On top of that there are various design patterns that Apple uses and recommend, that are fully supported in the language.

Re:Off-topic Maybe (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149273)

It's time for Apple to move on to a new language, as Objective-C bears the marks of having evolved over many years, and still suffers from many of the design snafus of C.

Design snafus such as that pesky performance.

Re:A new programming language (4, Informative)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 4 months ago | (#47148799)

Re:A new programming language (1)

Timothy Hartman (2905293) | about 4 months ago | (#47148817)

US Link [apple.com]

Re:A new programming language (4, Informative)

astrokid (779104) | about 4 months ago | (#47148835)

Swift Language Guide was uploaded recently @ https://itunes.apple.com/us/book/swift-programming-language/id881256329 [apple.com]

Re:A new programming language (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149159)

Yippee.

Re: A new programming language (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148867)

It's a sugarcoded lock-in platform trap, just like 'Visual Basic' or Sun's 'Java'.

Re:A new programming language (1)

MouseR (3264) | about 4 months ago | (#47149243)

Will be available today but App Store not updated for the Swift manual.

XCode6 preview includes a syntactical guide (probably the same as what will be on iBooks).

10 minutes into it and I cringe at a specific feature:

Support for any unicode glyphs as variable/function names. Down to emoticons.

That will bode well when I need to use altavista to translate the chinese sources into something I can read.

what about MS (0, Flamebait)

synapse7 (1075571) | about 4 months ago | (#47148699)

and skydrive, don't forget skydrive.

Re:what about MS (1)

synapse7 (1075571) | about 4 months ago | (#47148721)

Looks like it's now onedrive..

Re:what about MS (1)

just_another_sean (919159) | about 4 months ago | (#47148767)

F'in Brits! [wired.co.uk] :-)

Prediction (5, Funny)

njnnja (2833511) | about 4 months ago | (#47148707)

I'm not sure which of these technologies will be successful in the coming months, but I am certain that before the year is over we will see many job postings requiring 3 years experience with Swift.

Re: Prediction (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149259)

3 years experience - for an unpaid full time internship.

I think I'm something of a psychic (2, Funny)

marsu_k (701360) | about 4 months ago | (#47148717)

I usually like to think that the physical reality we live in is much more interesting than the supernatural world some people seem to live in. However, I have a precognition. Within seconds, we'll have SuperKendall and BasilBrush telling us how iCloud Drive is much superior to the current offerings. Coming in 3, 2, 1...

and it comes with the new NSA "quality control" .. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148763)

a spanking new release of Carrier IQ

Re:and it comes with the new NSA "quality control" (1)

LordLimecat (1103839) | about 4 months ago | (#47148837)

Slashdot periodically gives me nightmarish glimpses of a future, where netizens can do no more than regurgitate random buzzwords in no particular context or order.

Oh wait thats slashdot, circa today.

Re:and it comes with the new NSA "quality control" (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149051)

Slashdot periodically gives me nightmarish glimpses of a future, where netizens can do no more than regurgitate random buzzwords in no particular context or order.

Oh wait thats slashdot, circa today

No mention of Swift in topic nor summary (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148773)

Back in the days when Slashdot was technical, the topic would probably have read something like "Apple WWDC 2014: new language Swift to replace Objective C".

Whereas today the keywords for the topic are the name of the Apple CEO and the all-important name of the next O/S release. And Swift is not even mentioned in TFS, despite being by far the most significant technology-related announcement. Too technical I guess.

I feel a bit saddened.

Re:No mention of Swift in topic nor summary (2)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 4 months ago | (#47148859)

Swift is not there to "replace" Objective C, it's there to complement it, as an alternative choice.

Re:No mention of Swift in topic nor summary (1)

dasacc22 (1830082) | about 4 months ago | (#47148999)

Swift looks capable of replacing Objective C so that's all that matters. If Apple announced all developers need to learn Swift, everyone would be up in arms. A slow roll out that let's teams slowly try out swift is much more likely to catch on.

Re: No mention of Swift in topic nor summary (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149285)

Wrong. Apple officially announced that Swift IS the replacement for Objective-C. However you can mix-match Swift with Objective-C.

Many topics (Heath, Home, iOS...and Metal) (0)

tuppe666 (904118) | about 4 months ago | (#47148895)

...I suspect most of these will be discussed over the next weeks...my favourite topic. Is the one that makes Bill Gates spit coffee over his keyboard and shout "first smartphones, then tablets...now fucking house tech...If he says magical. I will burn their house down"

cue fanboys chanting "we are first"

For those who missed the internet(or using ie6) here is my link to Bill Gates The Road Ahead in paperback... http://www.amazon.com/Ahead-My... [amazon.com] Which clearly the fuckers at Latte read.

...ooh look an update to Safari...another topic.

And one more thing - NOT (3, Interesting)

Animats (122034) | about 4 months ago | (#47148783)

Kind of a "meh" series of announcements. The Mac interface will look more like the phone interface. (How'd that work out for Microsoft?) FTP that goes through Apple's servers. A new GUI theme. Some other routine GUI churn. A medical interface app with sensors. That's it?

Last week, Apple execs were promising big announcements, the biggest since the Jobs era. This is all they've got? From the hype, you'd expect a competitor for Google Glass, or a VR system, or a rugged phone with no connectors and inductive charging, or an AI system that runs your life, or NSA-proof security, or something really new, like a direct brain interface or displays in contact lenses.

Re:And one more thing - NOT (5, Insightful)

Dixie_Flatline (5077) | about 4 months ago | (#47148875)

Congratulations, you've fallen into the trap that so many other techies here at /. have in thinking that this is consumer stuff targeted at YOU.

It isn't.

The people that this is aimed at don't even know what you're talking about when you say 'FTP'. They just want to move their files around easily and transparently. Now they can. They'll like that.

Take a look at the actual tech stuff if you want to gripe or be excited. But the consumer facing stuff will be really interesting to consumers. They like a bit of GUI change as long as it's not too drastic. (Apple isn't moving the buttons or anything, they're just making a few things more accessible and modifying the design a little; this isn't near the magnitude of the change to the Windows Desktop OS.)

Apple is very good at selling things to people. For non-essential goods, there is basically no company on the planet that's better at making money from consumers. What is small potatoes to you is a big upgrade to some. And it's free. That tends to smooth out any rough edges that crop up.

Re:And one more thing - NOT (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149247)

The people that this is aimed at don't even know what you're talking about when you say 'FTP'.

It's 2014.

Nobody but crankly old veterans should know what the hell FTP is.

If you're using FTP in this day and age, you're wrong. Maybe you'd like to log into your system via telnet next, hey?

Re:And one more thing - NOT (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149265)

You know this is a week long event, right?
 
You know that they haven't announced iPhone 6 but it's sure to be there, right?
 
You're just looking at a reason to crap on Apple or you'd have known to hold your tongue... not like you're every going to be impressed with anything they release regardless of how good it is, to be sure.

Why? (0)

TitusC3v5 (608284) | about 4 months ago | (#47148785)

Why is Apple throwing at us the same flat-UI nonsense that Microsoft has been trying to cram down our throats?

Re:Why? (1)

narcc (412956) | about 4 months ago | (#47148871)

It's consumer technology. The rule has always been "follow the leader."

Re:Why? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149141)

Yea Windows 8 is *definitely* the sales leader.

Re:Why? (4, Funny)

organgtool (966989) | about 4 months ago | (#47148897)

Because they are finally admitting that Microsoft has superior UI design and they are trying to catch up.

Re:Why? (0)

tlhIngan (30335) | about 4 months ago | (#47149119)

Why is Apple throwing at us the same flat-UI nonsense that Microsoft has been trying to cram down our throats?

Because many of the mainstream press are fawning over flat, and declaring any UI that hasn't changed significantly in 2 years as "dull, outdated, boring".

Given Apple's general reluctance to change the UI (some things have changed, but most of the look of Aqua hasn't in nearly 15 years), well, people were calling OS X "outdated" and "needing a refresh to feel new". iOS was a particular victim of it, not having changed significantly appearance wise. Media were calling it outdated and "stuck in the past" while flatness was the new hotness and that "Apple needs to change it up or they're going to lose people to the new shiny".

And one of the problems is the media form a self-reinforcing feedback loop.

It all looks OK... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148805)

but I really cannot deal with the fanboism, cult-like ersatz mystique, and stupidly-high capitalist pricing Apple leave in their wake... My cheal $250 Asus laptop runnin Linux does everything I need it to do. I like simple, ascetically so. Give me a terminal windows and a browser and I'm happy. I don't even really care what DM or WM I use, although preferentially, I still love Window Maker most.

Re:It all looks OK... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148967)

Congratulations. We are totally impressed that you can figure out how to set up a cheap Linux machine. After all, it represents the pinnacle of technologic prowess.

We stand in awe of you.

Really.

Re:It all looks OK... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47149143)

If I dig the 10 year old turd computer out of my closet and boot it, will I be cool too?

NSA add-on (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148823)

and a spanking new release of carrier IQ naturally disguised as something else.

Extensions? (1)

SpeedBump0619 (324581) | about 4 months ago | (#47148827)

So the ability for one app to provide extensions that other apps can use to render specialized content?

Flash support in 3..2..1...

Swift (1, Informative)

scuzzlebutt (517123) | about 4 months ago | (#47148865)

The new Swift language looks like JavaScript and VBScript had an ugly baby.

Yosemite Sam... (1)

Tablizer (95088) | about 4 months ago | (#47148869)

you sure you want that? What's next, the Ted Nugent OS?

Road end` (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148919)

You know all is lost when Apple is poaching features from WinPhone (sorry Windows 8 tile interface).

2-D: Says It All About Apple's Direction To Come (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 4 months ago | (#47148933)

Looks like I'll be using 10.6.8 for at least a decade.

Hopefully by then Cook and Ive will be history and OS X will to back to being 3-D and UNIX POSIX compatible (for get the iOS crap).

Ha ha

Re:2-D: Says It All About Apple's Direction To Com (1)

Shadowmist (57488) | about 4 months ago | (#47149107)

Looks like I'll be using 10.6.8 for at least a decade.

Hopefully by then Cook and Ive will be history and OS X will to back to being 3-D and UNIX POSIX compatible (for get the iOS crap).

Ha ha

I built my Hackintosh on Snow Leopard. I'm so much happier with it running on 10.9.3. It does tend to open up the field of running software quite a bit, and I also love notifications. I'm not a big fan of a flat Dock, but I'm assuming that 3d will still be an option, and even if it's not.... it's not a deal breaker for me.

POSIX compatibility is really only an issue for some nonhuman who thinks that the X Windows, Lynx, and the Terminal should be the only interfaces available on the Mac. In other words the average slashdot geek who's hardly in touch with the human race at all

Re:2-D: Says It All About Apple's Direction To Com (1)

Number42 (3443229) | about 4 months ago | (#47149203)

OS X is still more than POSIX compatible, it's UNIX certified, including the current version.

Not so late to the game (3, Insightful)

Sir Holo (531007) | about 4 months ago | (#47149059)

FTSummary: ...also highlighted iCloud Drive. Although a little late to the party, Apple hopes to compete with the likes of Dropbox and Google Drive.

DropBox will drop its pants for the NSA any time, anywhere, with no FISA court order required. Apple, not so much.

mac mini still almost 2 years old at same price an (3)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 4 months ago | (#47149061)

mac mini still almost 2 years old at same price and hardware.

Yosemite? (1)

Bradmont (513167) | about 4 months ago | (#47149069)

So is this Apple's answer to Vegemite? Definitely a bold move from Mr. Cook.

HealthKit... I first read it as HeathKit (2)

LurkingSince1999 (2698703) | about 4 months ago | (#47149071)

That would have been awesome!

Is there ever going to be an OS 11? OS XI? (1)

kriston (7886) | about 4 months ago | (#47149077)

Is there ever going to be an OS 11? OS XI?

No? Why not?

Re:Is there ever going to be an OS 11? OS XI? (1)

scuzzlebutt (517123) | about 4 months ago | (#47149235)

They could market it by saying, "This one goes to eleven!"
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