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Apple's 2014 WWDC Keynote Will Be Streamed Live; Hopes For a Microconsole?

timothy posted about 6 months ago | from the apple-tv-plus dept.

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SlappingOysters (1344355) writes "Grab It is reporting that Apple will stream its 2014 WWDC keynote live at 10am PST on June 2. The site speculates that a recent update to showcase title and previous keynote star Real Racing 3 could confirm a rumoured microconsole announcement. The App Store has seen a dramatic rise in the quality and frequency of AAA spin-off titles over the last year, giving Apple a good platform to make a move into this emerging space."

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Could confirm? (4, Insightful)

FPhlyer (14433) | about 6 months ago | (#47139701)

The site speculates that a recent update to showcase title and previous keynote star Real Racing 3 could confirm a rumoured microconsole announcement.

Could confirm? Seriously... if it's still questionable then it is still unconfirmed.

Re:Could confirm? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47139821)

Indeed it could confirm that handheld console gaming is an emerging space just waiting for Apple to innovate. No company has found success there.

PS
apple will certainly VITAlize the GAME market. hoo BOY.

Re:Could confirm? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47139835)

There was also the PS P which brought console grade games into the handheld first. Apple haven't even gotten there yet, LOLz - their $1 games are lame and repetitive in terms of gameplay.

Re:Could confirm? (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 6 months ago | (#47141085)

The PSP did not bring console-grade games into handheld first. You couldn't use the PS2 discs with it, you needed the same software written on a different media!

The honour of being the first to bring console-grade games into handheld goes to the NEC TurboExpress [wikipedia.org] , which used the regular TurboGrafx-16's HuCard games directly.

Could confirm? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47140189)

It's an Apple "story", of course there will be nothing but rumors in it.

Re:Could confirm? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47140429)

>(Score:4, Insightful)

Only on Slashdot could a language correction be considered, "Insightful."

WHAT ABOUT THE MAC MINI?! (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47140681)

I don't give a FLYING FUCK about some "microconsole", whatever the fuck that actually is. It sounds like total hipster bullshit to me.

My 2009 Mac Mini is getting really LONG IN THE TOOTH. It wasn't exactly modern hardware to begin with, and now it's getting pretty damn old and slow.

But what is a fucker like me supposed to do? Apple hasn't updated its Mac Mini line in a long time. The fuck if I'm going to spend over £800 on a Mac Mini from the 2012 line. Mightly lord above us, we are half-way to 2015!

I just want a goddamn Mac that I can use with my goddamn monitor and my goddamn keyboard and my goddamn mouse. I don't want to buy a fucking laptop. I'm not a hipster shitbag who codes websites in the cafe, for crying out loud! And I don't want to buy a pole smoking iMac, since I've already got a goddamn monitor. And lord be my witness, I will not spend £2,500 on a Mac Pro that looks like a rubbish bin!

APPLE, I BEG OF YOU, RELEASE AN UPDATED MAC MINI DURING WWDC! PLEASE!

I don't want to get a Windows PC. I really don't. BUT YOU LEAVE ME NO CHOICE! I will be forced to flee the obsolence of the Apple realm if there is not a modern Mac Mini released sometime in the nearest of futures.

Re:WHAT ABOUT THE MAC MINI?! (2)

mrchaotica (681592) | about 6 months ago | (#47140981)

I don't want to get a Windows PC. I really don't. BUT YOU LEAVE ME NO CHOICE!

Not true. You could get a Chromebox [arstechnica.com] or any number of little computers running normal Linux (including on that Chromebox instead of ChromeOS).

Re:WHAT ABOUT THE MAC MINI?! (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47141311)

Okay sure. Just let me buy Photoshop for Linux and... oh wait, your solution doesn't work at all, you fucking moron.

Re:WHAT ABOUT THE MAC MINI?! (1)

unrtst (777550) | about 6 months ago | (#47142045)

Okay sure. Just let me buy Photoshop for Linux and... oh wait, your solution doesn't work at all, you fucking moron.

Looks like it works to me.
http://appdb.winehq.org/object... [winehq.org]

That said, photoshop was not listed as a requirement. Few people need/want it anway. GGP's post didn't mention it at all.
Seems like it's just a lot of bitching with absolutely no effort to avoid the root cause. Like someone bitching about who gets elected but never bothing to even register to vote.

Want an alternative? Put your money and effort into alternatives.
Want to continue to be treated like a sheep? Just keep bleating and follow along.

Re:WHAT ABOUT THE MAC MINI?! (2)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 6 months ago | (#47141069)

I don't want to get a Windows PC. I really don't. BUT YOU LEAVE ME NO CHOICE!

Hackintosh.

Re:Could confirm? (1)

Krojack (575051) | about 6 months ago | (#47141671)

And cost 50-100% more than your current top priced console and only play games approved by the ghost of Steve Jobs.

Apple TV? (5, Insightful)

steveha (103154) | about 6 months ago | (#47139761)

Apple is known for limiting the number of different products. IMHO Apple is unlikely to ship a "microconsole" and continue to ship the Apple TV.

Much more likely: the "4th generation" Apple TV, which will not only do everything an Apple TV does, but will also play games if you buy a controller.

According to Wikipedia, the current Apple TV uses a single-core ARM chip. For gaming, Apple should put in a more powerful chip, which may imply a price hike. Perhaps Apple will continue to sell the current generation as a less-expensive model, for those who don't care about games.

Re:Apple TV? (1)

calzones (890942) | about 6 months ago | (#47139793)

bingo

Re:Apple TV? (2)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 6 months ago | (#47139825)

I think iOS gaming is a real possibility on apple TV. Last year Apple opened up a framework for made-for-iphone bluetooth gamepads. they specified two layouts, the xbox 360 layout and the SNES layout. it's kind of silly to use these with an iPhone, but totally make sense to use them with apple tv. although from everything I hear there will be a new iOS 8 on Mon but no apple TV updates. I imagine it would happen in the fall, if it happens at all.

from what I've heard, the iOS 8 and OS X.10 are a lock, and maybe some stuff related to the Beats acquisition and something about a "home automation framework", whatever that means.

Re:Apple TV? (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 6 months ago | (#47141067)

But since it's the WWDC keynote, wouldn't it make sense to say something about a future game-able AppleTV box, so that games are ready when it launches? Maybe limited availability for registered devs?

PSP and GBA SP style (1)

tepples (727027) | about 6 months ago | (#47141159)

Last year Apple opened up a framework for made-for-iphone bluetooth gamepads. they specified two layouts, the xbox 360 layout and the SNES layout. it's kind of silly to use these with an iPhone

I don't see how the layouts are so silly. There are iPhone cases with buttons, and holding it horizontally makes the combination of phone and case look like an original GBA, PSP, or the bottom half of a Nintendo DS. The DS and PSP copy the Super NES's layout closely, and the GBA is the same thing minus two buttons. Other gamepads come as something to clamp onto the phone with the buttons at the bottom, which looks more like a GBA SP or NVIDIA SHIELD.

Re:PSP and GBA SP style (1)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 6 months ago | (#47141473)

The controllers themselves are fine. I just think it's weird to hold a console controller and prop up your itty bitty phone on a table to play. Definitely not the console experience! Btdubs interesting stuff online about why the Mfi controllers are so expensive. One reason, in order to ensure controller quality apple specified that all manufacturers must source their buttons from just one source. Another reason is probably mad fees.

Re:PSP and GBA SP style (1)

unrtst (777550) | about 6 months ago | (#47142091)

The controllers themselves are fine. I just think it's weird to hold a console controller and prop up your itty bitty phone on a table to play.

I don't know about Apple products, but many other devices (ex. Samsung Galaxy S4 & S5) support MHL (basically a micro HDMI connection). A cheap cable lets me plug it into my home reciever, and it works great for netflix, sharing pictures/video, Karaoke, or games (I've used it for Real Racing 3 on a 110" projector screen).

Add something like the chromecast, or intel's WiDi, and all that would be wireless, which certainly seems more in line with Apple's stuff. I have zero clue if anything like that is in the works, and I'm not speculating, but it'd make the gamepadded phone quite usable in the home as well.

Re:Apple TV? (1)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 6 months ago | (#47141683)

It would be unusual to release a games console with no release day games for it. Sure, you can have iPhone/iPad games on there, but the resolution will require scaling to fit a TV. They might still do it, but if a console were in the works I'd expect developers to know about it already.

Re:Apple TV? (1)

smash (1351) | about 6 months ago | (#47140299)

Yup. The appletv is crying out for a controller - there are millions of iOS developers who would love to break into the home console market. The hardware is capable enough, it just needs the relevant gaming APIs. The fact that apple have recently done the game-related kits for iOS IMHO strongly suggests that gaming is definitely going to be more of a focus in future. A controller enabled AppleTV makes sense.

Sign your business up for PlayStation already (1)

tepples (727027) | about 6 months ago | (#47141181)

there are millions of iOS developers who would love to break into the home console market.

Then why doesn't a small business that's been successful on Apple's App Store sign up as a PlayStation game developer? Sony Computer Entertainment has lately been courting indies in a way that would have been nigh unthinkable last generation.

Re:Apple TV? (1)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 6 months ago | (#47141581)

Yup. The appletv is crying out for a controller

Speaking of controllers, appletv is crying out for a fucking modern remote control like every other internet box has. Bluetooth connected (or whatever protocol, just not IR). My ps4 has a headphone jack on the controller itself, and it's fucking awesome. The appletv controller is always getting lost because it's the width of a credit card and slips beneath the couch cushions or wherever. I have better luck getting a woman than i have finding that thing. I like the roku controller a lot. Maybe I'll just map the Apple TV buttons to it?

Re:Apple TV? (1)

tomhath (637240) | about 6 months ago | (#47140575)

For gaming, Apple should put in a more powerful chip, which may imply a price hike. Perhaps Apple will continue to sell the current generation as a less-expensive model, for those who don't care about games.

Rewording slightly, since we are talking about buyers of Apple products::

Apple could put in a more powerful chip, which may imply a price hike for those who don't care about overpaying.

Re:Apple TV? (1)

BasilBrush (643681) | about 6 months ago | (#47140977)

Apple's most usual practice is to upgrade the processing power each year whilst keeping the price the same. Price changes usually come with different hardware form factors. And more often down than up.

Re:Apple TV? (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 6 months ago | (#47141053)

The 3rd generation Apple TV has a more powerful chip than the 2nd generation model but the price didn't change. Since Apple uses the same Ax ARM CPU in almost all their iOS units, it's cheaper to just buy more of the same chip than to order half as much of two different chips.

I'm expecting the next AppleTV box to use the same A8 CPU as the current top-of-the-line iPhone/iPad. This could explain the delay in releasing the new box.

Apple TV? (1)

wzinc (612701) | about 6 months ago | (#47140941)

iPhone or iPod touch may be the controller...

Re:Apple TV? (1)

tepples (727027) | about 6 months ago | (#47141201)

Only if the iPhone or iPod touch itself has an MFI controller with actual buttons clamped to it. Touch doesn't do so hot when you aren't looking at your fingers.

Re:Apple TV? (0)

spire3661 (1038968) | about 6 months ago | (#47141437)

They have been letting Apple TV wither on the vine for a long time now. I gave up after they came out and said 'wow Apple TV is selling, i guess we should get more serious about it'.

Re: Apple TV? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47141499)

We can only speculate what the divine means by changing this schedule, and try to interpret the meanings of the prophets through their vision seeing followers.

I for one, want a retina iMac, but only if the divine finds it within their will.

If it can run Oregon Trail... (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47139795)

then I'll be the first in line

Re:If it can run Oregon Trail... (1)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 6 months ago | (#47139831)

you can play it on iPad and iPhone. If you feel strongly about it you can mirror your iPad screen to the apple TV. If you feel super strongly you can buy a bluetooth gamepad controller. https://itunes.apple.com/us/ap... [apple.com]

Re:If it can run Oregon Trail... (1)

Stormwatch (703920) | about 6 months ago | (#47139955)

That game is on the Google Play store as well, so the anon GP could just as well get any Android device. However, tons of reviews say this game is utter shit: even though it is paid, it still takes a ton of microtransactions to get any good. Of course, you could run the original on an emulator... oh wait, Apple does not allow emulators on their store. Google does.

Re:If it can run Oregon Trail... (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | about 6 months ago | (#47140273)

Of course, you could run the original on an emulator... oh wait, Apple does not allow emulators on their store. Google does.

Yes, yes they do, and in fact I have both the emulator and the oregon trail dsk images from the Asimov collection on my Nexus 4 right now.

Re:If it can run Oregon Trail... (1)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | about 6 months ago | (#47141219)

Can you fit that all on a Nexus? What with the no SD slot and all...

8-bit games are small (1)

tepples (727027) | about 6 months ago | (#47141319)

You'd be surprised at how small these Apple II games are. Each disk side is no bigger than 140 KiB, meaning you can probably fit well over a thousand disk images in 100 MB of zipfiles. They're small like NES games.

Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47139799)

I am curious why Apple is having their WWDC convention in the early summer (before the Google I/O event even), when normally they are in the fall.

If they announce a console, they should merge AppleTV and it, so one product does all the set top love in a residence. Maybe even add a Blu-Ray drive, so one only needs it and the TV.

Other things that might be useful as Apple announcements:

1: A security standard for devices, and more than just SSL or "just trust us". Apple upping the bar in the security arena would mean good PR. Perhaps an app to device standard that helps secure communication via Bluetooth or Wi-Fi. Perhaps some way to share public keys so an IoT device only will speak to authorized devices, and no other, no CA, no third party.

2: A return back to schools with deep discounts and an active presence. Apple made themselves a foundation by having low priced machines in the educational setting. These days, a Mac discount is 10% last time I checked. It may not profit the next quarter... but it will have a lot more people who will buy them later on.

3: A rackable desktop/server. The only reason MS is existing is because of their presence in the enterprise. If Apple can get into this market, even a bit, it is a stable income base.

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (4, Insightful)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 6 months ago | (#47139839)

I am curious why Apple is having their WWDC convention in the early summer (before the Google I/O event even), when normally they are in the fall.

WWDC is always at the beginning of June. They will have a separate event in Sep where they in recent years have announced the new iPhone.

If they announce a console, they should merge AppleTV and it, so one product does all the set top love in a residence. Maybe even add a Blu-Ray drive, so one only needs it and the TV.

never happen, apple hates physical media. heck, they never supported blu ray in their MacBooks, and are now killing off physical media completely. besides, why would you need a blu ray player when you could just rent or buy from iTunes? :P

My two reasons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47140005)

why would you need a blu ray player when you could just rent or buy from iTunes?

1. I can get a a movie DVD from Target for $5 and play it as many times as I want. Great for learning a foreign language - play it with the Spanish track on.

2. I do not want to do business with iTunes. I actually read the ToS and the associated documents. No thanks. I'll pass.

Re:My two reasons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47140041)

why would you need a blu ray player when you could just rent or buy from iTunes?

1. I can get a a movie DVD from Target for $5 and play it as many times as I want. Great for learning a foreign language - play it with the Spanish track on.

Yeah but I can rent a movie for cheaper than that and have the convenience of getting it 'now' in my living room without having to go to Target, Sure I cannot watch it forever (and I am sure that most people don't care about learning a language from subtitles - there's probably an app for that anyway) but I probably will watch it twice maybe three times at the most in my lifetime and then I can rent it each time and it still aint going to be that expensive overall, plus I don't have to clutter up the place with DVD cases which I will probably lose or scratch anyway.

2. I do not want to do business with iTunes. I actually read the ToS and the associated documents. No thanks. I'll pass.

Most people don't care that much about if they are doing business with 'iTunes' or 'Google' or whatever - my mother would have no idea about what the ToS are, or care for that matter. Also you won't do business with iTunes but you will with Target?! Hmm.. each to their own.

Re:My two reasons. (1)

amiga3D (567632) | about 6 months ago | (#47140145)

If you want to watch something multiple times you can just rip it to disk. I gave all my DVDs away. One hard drive holds an entire drawer full of DVDs with room to spare.

Re:My two reasons. (1)

KingOfBLASH (620432) | about 6 months ago | (#47140217)

Yeah and how big is your NAS?

The nice thing about iTunes + Apple TV is the cloud. Stream whatever you want to watch and delete it when you're done. So long as you have a halfway decent internet connection, literally anything you want to watch is available with a touch of a button.

I've tried the DVD route. DVDs tend to get scratched, lost, or otherwise become a pain to organize.

I've also tried ripping them. It required way too much storage space. And I'm always faced with the distinct possibility that if I don't make backups of all that data I may find it disappear one day.

Apple takes care of all of that for me. And I am more than happy to pay them for it.

Re:My two reasons. (1)

smash (1351) | about 6 months ago | (#47140315)

Yup. Guaranteed quality digital content (no crapshoot with downloading torrents), its relatively cheap ($2-$4 = not worth my time screwing around with dodgy rips), and if your internet connection is say 6-8 megabit or faster streaming is no problem at all.

I really believe that decent broadband will have a signifnicant impact on consumer storage. I would bet that most people with multiple tb of storage at home (note, not all - i'm sure there are exceptions, so don't both saying "i have a heap of legitimate content") are using it purely to store ripped or illegally downloaded media. Convenient, cheap streaming = bottom will drop out of the storage market.

Blow through your cap in hours (1)

tepples (727027) | about 6 months ago | (#47141223)

Until you end up living in a place whose best available home ISP promises (and delivers) 6 to 8 Mbps bursts but cuts you off after 10 GB per month. This lets you blow through your cap in three hours.

Re:Blow through your cap in hours (1)

KingOfBLASH (620432) | about 6 months ago | (#47141573)

Sucks to be you.

Re:My two reasons. (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | about 6 months ago | (#47141481)

My NAS is 5.5 GB, co-located at mine and my in-laws house. Total cost $600, less than a blu-ray carousel.

Re:My two reasons. (1)

KingOfBLASH (620432) | about 6 months ago | (#47141579)

5.5 GB?

What quality do you rip those movies at? ;)

Re:My two reasons. (1)

spire3661 (1038968) | about 6 months ago | (#47141643)

Its my test setup. I started with my low def rips and DVDs and plan on working up from there. I only have about 15 full size Blu-rays on there (just started ripping them in the last 6 months). Eventually ill add another, pro-grade NAS, maybe even a ZFS setup with larger storage. Keep in mind that im co-located, so costs double for any changes. Its more important to me to have quality over quantity.

Re:My two reasons. (1)

mlts (1038732) | about 6 months ago | (#47141781)

A decent NAS isn't too expensive. Get a decent enclosure that has a number of 5.25" bays, power supply, a small SSD for the OS, trays for the 5.25" bays that allow hot plugging/unplugging of 2.5" drives, and your OS of choice, and you can have a good capacity with +2 redundancy for under a grand. (You want RAID1 or RAID-Z2 at a minimum these days because RAID-Z can detect bit rot, but can't fix it. RAID-Z2 and higher can not just find bit rot, but can fix it without the use of ditto blocks.)

Another product I've heard very good things about is something called un-RAID. You can add onto the RAID array dynamically, having the largest drive (if they are not all the same size) be dedicated to parity, another drive for write caches, and so on... so when you need more storage, tossing more drives in and hot-adding appears to be easy. Downside is that it is commercial, and I am leery of "magic voodoo" when it comes to RAID.

Re:My two reasons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47141829)

He must mean TB or PB

Re:My two reasons. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47141745)

You are assuming a decent network connection. I stream too many movies in a month with an ever-shrinking data cap, and my local cable provider will start charging me about $5 per movie streamed through their pipe. Five bucks can buy me a decent DVD, perhaps a bargain basement Blu-Ray.

Until the US government steps in and get someone to start laying real broadband (China did this and they have far worse infrastructure... but even in the rice paddies, you can get LTE speed for a few yuan a month, no caps,) it only will get worse.

Buying a Blu-Ray (assuming it can be cracked), or a DVD, ripping it onto a media server and either locally streaming it or converting it to a format that is good for the local device and manually copying it is probably the only choice for we in the US for the next 1-2 decades.

Re:My two reasons. (1)

smash (1351) | about 6 months ago | (#47140307)

I can buy content from itunes for similar price, not have to leave my home, and play it as many times as I want. I will never scratch the non-existent media, never lose it, and it will play on all of my devices. Sure if Apple goes broke i lose access to my media, but the chances of that happening are probably smaller than WW3 starting and us all being nuked back into the stone age.

Re:My two reasons. (1)

mrchaotica (681592) | about 6 months ago | (#47141049)

Sure if Apple goes broke i lose access to my media, but the chances of that happening are probably smaller than WW3 starting and us all being nuked back into the stone age.

Apple going bankrupt almost happened in 1996 (18 years ago). WW3 almost happened during the Cuban Missile Crisis in 1962 (52 years ago). This puts an upper bound on the probability of WW3 at 1/52 = ~1.9% and on Apple going bnakrupt at 1/18 = ~5.5%. Therefore, Apple going bankrupt is more likely than WW3.

(Cue the statistics pedants!)

Re:My two reasons. (0)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 6 months ago | (#47141029)

Learn foreign languages for free: https://www.duolingo.com/ [duolingo.com]

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (2, Insightful)

Jack Griffin (3459907) | about 6 months ago | (#47139997)

Maybe even add a Blu-Ray drive, so one only needs it and the TV.

Why, so they can get all those people still stuck in 2008? No-one uses physical media anymore, why would anyone want an optical drive these days?

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47140077)

Maybe even add a Blu-Ray drive, so one only needs it and the TV.

Why, so they can get all those people still stuck in 2008? No-one uses physical media anymore, why would anyone want an optical drive these days?

No one uses physical media these days ? Where the hell did you find this trueism, did it came out of your ass ?

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (1)

amiga3D (567632) | about 6 months ago | (#47140151)

Some people are slow to move on. I know people that actually read paper books too. If you watch flea markets there are still people that buy 8 track tapes. I remember when 8 track came out and it sucked then. Nothing like listening to a song and having the damn player change track right in the middle of it.

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (4, Insightful)

Jack Griffin (3459907) | about 6 months ago | (#47140341)

Yes but in case you haven't paid attention lately, Apple are a technology company, not an antique dealer...

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 6 months ago | (#47141021)

That's a good line, mind if I use it the next time someone asks for a Blu-Ray drive in Macs?

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (1)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 6 months ago | (#47141631)

Yes that's a pretty good line for that case. Apple was the first to remove the floppy, and the first to remove the DVD drive. They're not going back.

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (0)

Bing Tsher E (943915) | about 6 months ago | (#47141183)

Apple is more of a marketing operation. They very deeply brand the stuff they hire other people to build for them.

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (1)

tepples (727027) | about 6 months ago | (#47141231)

why would anyone want an optical drive these days?

Because it's cheaper than moving your family out of a place with a slow and/or capped home ISP.

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (1)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 6 months ago | (#47141635)

Just get an external drive if you want to party like its 2004. I bought a Sammy blu ray drive on amazon for thirty bucks.

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 6 months ago | (#47140171)

apple will need to do more to get into enterprise. A real desktop / bigger mini will work if it's easy to get to storage (some enterprise place remove storage before shipping units out for any number of reasons) also need to be like HP, dell and others in where you can destroy / not return a failed HDD / SSD. Same thing for laptops

AIO are nice but in enterprise the desktop + monitor is better.

also an real server hardware and not the mac pro rack mounted.

OR let mac os X server run on any hardware in a VM. Maybe better then apple building server hardware and driver wise better then having to deal with all kinds of hardware.

But if they really want to go into enterprise remove all of the apple hardware only locks in MAC OS X. OSx86 Project works on lot's of hardware it's just the locks that make it a lot of added work like having to do the some to all of the Hackintosh stuff for EACH UPDATE.

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (2)

smash (1351) | about 6 months ago | (#47140325)

The mac mini is plenty for enterprise use, as is the MBA. The hardware is not the problem. It's the immaturity of enterprise management tools. No, macs don't need anywhere near as much IT management, but the enterprise will be slow to acknowledge that, and without proper enterprise management, they will not be readily accepted.

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (1)

KingOfBLASH (620432) | about 6 months ago | (#47140343)

This is the one thing that makes me very sad at Apple.

Their business focuses mostly not on business. I would love to see them change that, and do business right. They'd pose a credible threat to microsoft and we'd all benefit from the additional choice.

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (1)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 6 months ago | (#47141665)

also an real server hardware and not the mac pro rack mounted.

you know how many customers were pissed when apple cancelled the Xserve? Both of them.

OR let mac os X server run on any hardware in a VM.

Apple sells hardware and builds software so people have a reason to buy the hardware. Considering that OS X server is free, I don't think they'll be inclined to let you run it in a vm.

Re:Wonder why so relatively early in the year... (1)

SKorvus (685199) | about 6 months ago | (#47141965)

>3: A rackable desktop/server. The only reason MS is existing is because of their presence in the enterprise. If Apple can get into this market, even a bit, it is a stable income base.

Did you forget about these? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X... [wikipedia.org]

Apple discontinued them 4 years ago, after a 10-year effort, presumably because they weren't making much headway. I was disappointed, because I agree they should be pushing into the enterprise market as well. But their revenue overwhelmingly comes from consumer devices [brandongaille.com] , primarily the iPhone & iPad. The entire Mac business now makes up a small portion of their income.

What is the point of this story? (5, Insightful)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 6 months ago | (#47139805)

I normally don't like looking at Apple Rumor sites at all, or reading about them.

But a story like this seems REALLY pointless. What on earth is the point of publishing the story days before we know for sure what will happen? Just so people can swagger in with last minute "guesses" that hardly count because of last minute leaks?

Much better to discuss the meaning or use of what actually is to come, rather than some possibility which will be potentially dissipated in mere days.

In other words, let the cat at least settle down in the box before you open it.

Re:What is the point of this story? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47139987)

Articles written for idiots which receive a lot of comments => lot of eyeballs => lot of revenue:

- Apple have polished some brushed metal;
- Someone at SpaceX and/or Tesla has taken a shit;
- A gun is being printed, fired and/or restricted somewhere in America;
- The NSA has behaved with the megalomania of a private corporation;
- A private corporation has behaved with the megalomania of the NSA;
- The French did something un-American;
- The British did something like 1984;
- The Australians didn't do enough;
- In Korea, something irrelevant is better;
&c.

Re:What is the point of this story? (1)

amiga3D (567632) | about 6 months ago | (#47140159)

You've summed it up pretty well.

Re:What is the point of this story? (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 6 months ago | (#47141013)

- The Canadians are sorry about something someone else has done;

Re:What is the point of this story? (1)

Noah Haders (3621429) | about 6 months ago | (#47141679)

You could work as a slashdot editor. Throw in something about bit coin.

Re:What is the point of this story? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47141845)

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Re:What is the point of this story? (1)

manu144x (3377615) | about 6 months ago | (#47140019)

Because that's how Apple's PR works, and always will. Even the monumental iPhone was just rumors and guesses until the unveiling at their keynotes. This is how you get more and more normal people to watch your famous keynote, not just geeks.

If for example Apple would give a list with all the products/specs they would present at the keynote, would anyone watch it? Probably just fans, but it would be pretty boring.

But since you have no clue, you want to watch it, and this way they can and will present it to you as being something revolutionary, and this way people focus on what Apple wants people to focus on, not on what you would usually focus on from articles (things like specs, size, bla bla).

Apple PR at it's best, always worked, always will...

Re:What is the point of this story? (1)

amiga3D (567632) | about 6 months ago | (#47140161)

I've noticed most other manufacturers start touting the next great thing a year before it arrives. By the time it gets here no one really gives a shit anymore.

Re:What is the point of this story? (1)

tomhath (637240) | about 6 months ago | (#47140605)

That's a good description of PR in general. But really, it won't change my life knowing 24 hours sooner. I'll read about it the next day rather than watch a keynote sales pitch.

Not Apple PR (1)

SuperKendall (25149) | about 6 months ago | (#47141801)

Apple itself as a company does not like leaks. To the extent they are hiring the Chinese military to clamp down on them...

The leaks/rumors industry is not Apple at all, but a whole range of third parties seeking to discern anything they can about Apple before an announcement.

The reason is of course money... for whatever reason a lot of people seem drawn to these rumor sites, and that creates a lot of advertising revenue.

I was just hoping Slashdot was above doing the same thing...

Re:What is the point of this story? (1)

mlts (1038732) | about 6 months ago | (#47141833)

Other companies in the computer industry, if you are a client, you can sign a NDA (blood optional, but likely asked), and they will hand you a roadmap for the next 3-5 years of where they plan to be with product launches.

Apple, there might be a few companies (like their upstream suppliers) who might get this privilege... but if one has a mid-range business and is trying to time budget issues with a refresh of MacBooks or new iPhones, it is impossible.

It is understandable that this type of stuff is good for the consumer circuit, but Apple should start looking at getting into the enterprise. Consumers are a fickle lot, and with Jobs gone, Cook has done a good job at keeping the legacy going, but Apple may end up in a bind in the next few years. Expand into too many markets, get spread thin. Stay in the same markets and get hammered by shareholders for not "growing".

Re:What is the point of this story? (1)

Bogtha (906264) | about 6 months ago | (#47141293)

What on earth is the point of publishing the story days before we know for sure what will happen?

That's nothing. In previous years, Slashdot has quite happily published stories about Apple products while the presenters were still on stage announcing them. Hence the discussion is useless because everybody is talking about things that are shown to be irrelevant five minutes later and the stories invariably leave a bunch of things out, necessitating updates and subsequent articles. It's a real clusterfuck sometimes.

just another confirmation (2, Interesting)

Ralph Spoilsport (673134) | about 6 months ago | (#47140127)

of Apple's cultural bankruptcy. Jobs died and they haven't come up with ANYTHING of importance. He's been gone for almost 3 years. He wasn't that active the last year or so, so technically he's been out of the picture for almost 5. Apple needs to do something big and smart. I don't see that happening with Cook at the helm. They could do something small and smart, like PUT COVER FLOW BACK INTO ITUNES. But I don't think that will happen. I think they'r just going to minimax themselves into triviality.

Re:just another confirmation (4, Insightful)

smash (1351) | about 6 months ago | (#47140331)

Why is this allegation constantly leveled at Apple? What have Samsung done? What has Google done? Fact is, revolutionary hardware or software doesn't come around very often. If Apple are doing such a poor job, what is your suggestion?

Re:just another confirmation (3, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47140387)

The point is that "doing something revolutionary" was Apple's Business Model and how they were able to maintain their high prices and also their "followship".
What Jobs managed like no second was waiting for the right moment and then shipping the technology with a near perfect UI. He did not ship products "when they were possible" but when they were "possible to make elegant".
He was not the first on the market of computers (Mac), MP3 players or Smartphones or webshops. But he waited long enough until he could ship something really thought through (at premium prices). When the "rabble" of the market cought up to his premium segment, he moved on. From Desktops to MP3 players to phones to tablets. All points into the direction that TV was going to be the next segment Jobs would have moved.

Samsung and google can afford to do "just business", as they are in the market of "just business". Apple was in the market of opening premium segments for the non technical masses with money and moving on when he could not sell anymore in the high price segmet as the rest of the market cought on.

Apple can survive as "one of them", I think. But that is not the model Jobs had and that they still seem to go for. Not having something revolutionary in the works is going to be the end of Apple as we have known it in the last years.

Re:just another confirmation (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 6 months ago | (#47141009)

Doing the same thing with what we call "TV" is hard as hell, because you have a labyrinth of contracts and obligations between multiple levels of writers, producers, distributors, giant media corporations and all of these are different per country.

In short, it's not a technological barrier that Apple can easily solve, because it's a bureaucratic problem.

House of Cards (2)

tepples (727027) | about 6 months ago | (#47141305)

Apple's iTunes division could work around studio bureaucracy the same way Netflix did: vertical integration. Invest in a TV studio to produce original programming. Or what am I missing?

Re:House of Cards (1)

bagorange (1531625) | about 6 months ago | (#47142041)

a TV studio to produce original programming.

Original, in the sense of a remake of a TV series that was based on a novel in the first place.

Re:just another confirmation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47141007)

Because every single Apple announcement is hyped (exactly as this one is) endlessly in the media. Apple is a very successful company and if their products are as great as everyone says, they sure don't need the endless rumor mongering and hype that they get. The fact that they DO get all this hype says, at least to me, that Apple is not a hardware nor a software company but a lifestyle marketing company. It's the only theory that fits.

Re: just another confirmation (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | about 6 months ago | (#47140473)

Don't worry they have Dr Dre now! He's like the black Steve jobs.

Re: just another confirmation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47140671)

Puh-lease

Re: just another confirmation (1)

binarylarry (1338699) | about 6 months ago | (#47141433)

Well how else do you explain Apple buying Beats for 3 billion dollars?

Dre obviously has the ability to generate a reality distortion field.

Re: just another confirmation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47141857)

He did get all the trendy people to spend $100 on giant plastic $10 headphones...

Re:just another confirmation (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47140857)

What was Apple's rate of important thing generation before hand? Any sane person would argue that the 5 important things they've done are the GUI computer, the laptop, the music player that people actually want, the touchscreen phone, and the tablet that people actually want. That's 5 things in the space of a company that's 38 years old. That is, one fairly impressive thing every 7-8 years on average.

So, your 3 year time span... meh... Apple doesn't need to have done anything cool in that time frame, they still have plenty of time.

Re:just another confirmation (1)

Ralph Spoilsport (673134) | about 6 months ago | (#47141887)

Some anonymous coward with poor history skills wrote:

Any sane person would argue that the 5 important things they've done are the GUI computer, the laptop, the music player that people actually want, the touchscreen phone, and the tablet that people actually want.

I would also add the iMac. Why? back to a singular design that was very swishy for the times, but more importantly: implementation of USB and Firewire. With this came the arrival of major software development, such as Final Cut Pro and iMovie to support these machines and standards.

GUI Computer: 1984. year 0
laptop: 1991. 6 years
Jobs Returns - 1996
iMac 1998 - 7 years, 2 years post Jobs v2
ipod: 2001. 3 years, 5 years after Jobs v2
iphone: 2007. 6 years
ipad: 2010. 3 years.

Notice how the trend was one of accelleration, especially after Jobs Return (v2). So, no, you can't go totalling up the number of devices and divide them into the total number of years. I would also put the Newton in there as well, but it was a decade or two too soon... so, in short, fuck off Apple Fan Boi.

Re:just another confirmation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47140985)

If your idea of doing something smart is putting back Cover Flow back into iTunes, why would I listen to the rest of your arguments?

Re:just another confirmation (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47141885)

Whine whine whine, Apple is dying, whine whine, because of a personal pet peeve.

Actually 9am PST (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 6 months ago | (#47140455)

If you hate Daylight Saving Time so much that you give time without it, then do it right.

Rumour confirmed!! (1)

edxwelch (600979) | about 6 months ago | (#47140457)

The rumour is confirmed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A... [wikipedia.org]
Looks awsome! The new Apple Bandai Pippin console features a 66 MHz processor and a 14.4 kb/s modem...

Grab is reporting? WTF is Grab? (1)

ArcadeMan (2766669) | about 6 months ago | (#47140967)

I sure as hell didn't need them to go to Apple.com [apple.com] to see the banner at the bottom of the home page, which leads to this page [apple.com] which clearly tells us about the live streaming tomorrow.

Article seems ignorant of current state (1)

Bram Stolk (24781) | about 6 months ago | (#47141425)

I think the article screwed up here.
From the article:

"Party Play allows four friends to connect via BlueTooth controllers to an iPad, enabling local splitscreen multiplayer. Take your iPad out to your flatscreen TV with a HDMI adaptor and bingo, the Apple microconsole has arrived."

So the iPad is the microconsole, and you can ALREADY DO THIS.

The iPad can mirror anything to a TV using HDMI, and the iPad can already do MFi controllers, so there is NOTHING NEW HERE.

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