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Apple Shows Off New iOS 7, Mac OS X At WWDC

samzenpus posted about 10 months ago | from the round-up dept.

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Nerval's Lobster writes "Apple CEO Tim Cook kicked off his company's Worldwide Developers Conference (WWDC) in San Francisco with a short video emphasizing the importance of design, particularly that which evokes some sort of emotional connection such as love or delight. But that sentimental bit aside, this WWDC was all business: huge numbers of developers attend this annual event, packing sessions designed to help give their apps an edge in Apple's crowded online marketplace (some 50 billion apps have been downloaded from the App Store, Cook told the audience during his keynote). Apple also uses its WWDC to unveil new products or services, attracting sizable interest from the tech press.

This time around, the company introduced Mac OS X 'Mavericks,' which includes 'Finder Tabs' (which allow the user to deploy multiple tabs within a Finder window—great for organization, in theory) and document tags (for easier searching). Macs will now support multiple displays, including HDTVs, with the ability to tweak elements between screens; Apple claims the operating system will also interact with the CPU in a more efficient manner.

On top of that, Apple rolled out some new hardware: an upgraded MacBook Air with faster graphics, better battery life (9 hours for the 11-inch edition, while the 13-inch version can draw 12 hours' worth of power). Apple has decided to jump into the cloud-productivity space with iWork for iCloud, which makes the company's iWork portfolio (Pages, Numbers, and Keynote) browser-based; this is a clear response to Office 365 and Google Docs.

And finally, the executives onstage turned back to iOS, which (according to Apple) powers some 600 million devices around the world. This version involves more than a few tweaks: from a redesigned 'Slide to Unlock' at the bottom of the screen, to the bottom-up control panel that slides over the home-screen, to the 'flat' (as predicted) icons and an interface that adjusts as the phone is tilted, this is a total redesign. As a software designer, Ive is clearly a huge fan of basic shapes—circles and squares— and layering translucent elements atop one another."

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How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (2, Funny)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 10 months ago | (#43965189)

I mean really... why?

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (4, Funny)

Moses48 (1849872) | about 10 months ago | (#43965209)

I'm going to withhold judgement on this, as I think it looks nice. As long as the parts are all standard and easily replaceable, the shape of the case doesn't make much difference.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965291)

and how likely do you think that is considering the formfactor

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (5, Informative)

tysonedwards (969693) | about 10 months ago | (#43965351)

According to the product page, it sure doesn't look like those are standard GPUs, as well as it looks like they go from dual socket Xeons to single socket, mounted centrally so the entire system would need to be disassembled to replace the CPU, if it is even replaceable.

From the imagery posted on Apple's website, it looks like a Mac Mini++.
Apple: Mac Pro [apple.com]

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (1)

cayenne8 (626475) | about 10 months ago | (#43965633)

It looks like they're thoughts are that most everything will be done with breakout boxes using Thunderbolt...there's 6x of the Thunderbolt2 connectors on the back, and you can daisy chain multiple things off each one?

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (4, Informative)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 10 months ago | (#43965349)

If Apple's (rather painfully self-satisfied) slideshow thing [apple.com] is anything to go by, there isn't a single standardized part in the entire computer, with the exception of the RAM, and possibly the CPU, depending on whether they went socketed or BGA.

The two GPU cards are probably PCIe electrically; but the shape certainly isn't compatible, the CPU card is its own animal(one that packs a whole four RAM slots, that's Serious Workstation material right there...), and PCIe-attached SSDs in the mini-PCIe form factor are relatively odd ducks(most that are that size and shape are mSATA, and PCIe direct-attached cards are usually rectangular PCIe 8x cards.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (1)

Stratus311 (894962) | about 10 months ago | (#43965629)

Are there no ports for additional internal hard drives? I couldn't see a single place where they would go. Or are you stuck buying into Apples extremely proprietary (and expensive) storage options?

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (4, Informative)

immaterial (1520413) | about 10 months ago | (#43965639)

FWIW - have you tried to upgrade a Mac Pro's graphics card in the past? There are unfortunately very very few options [everymac.com] even with the standard connector. I'd bet the situation remains about the same with this newer design.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (5, Insightful)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 10 months ago | (#43965383)

As long as the parts are all standard and easily replaceable

Ah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha... ha.... Yeah, probably.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965551)

It looks like the trashcan it is.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (4, Insightful)

D1G1T (1136467) | about 10 months ago | (#43965595)

The video cards are not standard or (apparently) replaceable. As a Mac Pro user needing an upgrade, this is a deal killer for me. Part of the ROI on a Mac Pro purchase has been the abilty to throw a new card in the box every couple years and keep going. These new machines are going to be obsoleted much faster.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (5, Interesting)

Wingsy (761354) | about 10 months ago | (#43965269)

Well, why not? C'mon, you can tell us. It does look nice, and I like the way you can rotate it to get to the i/o on the back. Oh, and that little light that comes on when it's rotated. No need to cuss and go find a flashlight. A little thing, but a nice thing.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (2)

fatalexe (845503) | about 10 months ago | (#43965275)

The G4 Cube was cool. It certainly will look nice next to a Thunderbolt monitor.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (5, Insightful)

adisakp (705706) | about 10 months ago | (#43965285)

I mean really... why?

One thing you should be happy about... putting all the expansion OUTSIDE of the computer using STANDARDIZED interfaces (Thunderbolt was actually developed by Intel and you can get PC adapters) means that any money you put into expanding a computer will be easily portable to other computer or when you upgrade a computer. This isn't necessarily true with internal cards (think ISA / VESA / PCI / PCIe / PCIx). Also, you don't have to worry about upgrading your computer's power supply or cooling when you add expansion.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (3, Insightful)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 10 months ago | (#43965319)

Which would work much better with a stackable case, no? Like you can do with existing PC hardware.

So instead there will be a circle that has a stack of stuff near it.

The TB bus does not have a lot of bandwidth (0)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 10 months ago | (#43965367)

The TB bus does not have a lot of bandwidth it's only pci-e X4 and I hope that each port or has it's own X4 link or at least one X4 link for 2 ports.

But adding a video card is out over a X4 link maybe even a a raid setup that uses a X8 pci-e card may be slowed down as well.

As well useing a lot of stuff on the same bus.

Re:The TB bus does not have a lot of bandwidth (5, Informative)

adisakp (705706) | about 10 months ago | (#43965479)

The TB bus does not have a lot of bandwidth it's only pci-e X4 and I hope that each port or has it's own X4 link or at least one X4 link for 2 ports.

Thunderbolt 2 is 20Gb/s. There are 6 ports and 3 Thunderbolt controllers (each controller handles a full 20Gb/s across 2 ports).

FWIW, PCIe 1.0 x8 is only 16Gb/s and x4 is only 8Gb/s.

The bandwidth here is basically faster than 6 x8 slots.

Re:The TB bus does not have a lot of bandwidth (2)

adisakp (705706) | about 10 months ago | (#43965503)

Anyhow... that's a lot faster than any consumer or prosumer storage solutions. It might be a little slow only if you were driving an external video card but the internal cards can handle 3X 4K displays already.

Re:The TB bus does not have a lot of bandwidth (2)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 10 months ago | (#43965545)

missing the point how are the TB chips linked to the chip set? and does each controller have it's own X4 link?

Re:The TB bus does not have a lot of bandwidth (5, Informative)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 10 months ago | (#43965635)

"Thunderbolt 2 is 20Gb/s"

Remember that 'Thunderbolt' speed numbers include both the PCIe and the Displayport data channels(and, to the best of my knowledge, the capacity allocation between the video and data channels is fixed, even if only one is being used). By aggregating the previous 4 10Gb channels into two 20Gb channels, they allowed full Displayport 1.2 resolution and expect to bottleneck external storage devices slightly less; but the PCIe side still looks like PCIe 2.0 x4. Not slow; but substantially slower than x8 and x16 PCIe 2.0 and slower still than PCIe 3.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965329)

At least it's shaped like the rubbish bin that it is.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (4, Informative)

bkmoore (1910118) | about 10 months ago | (#43965333)

The Cray-1 was a cylinder.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965531)

Yeah and it's a piece of shit. It's not the 70s any more.

And another thing (3, Funny)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 10 months ago | (#43965375)

Does OSX Mavericks come with a Sarah Palin or a Tom Cruise doll?

25 foot surf ... (5, Interesting)

perpenso (1613749) | about 10 months ago | (#43965623)

Does OSX Mavericks come with a Sarah Palin or a Tom Cruise doll?

No. But it does come with images of the big wave surfing location, Mavericks, for which it is actually named. A location that has 25 foot surf on an average day. A really cool place.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965385)

At least I can throw garbage in it. It looks like a garbage can!

Cooling (4, Informative)

Theaetetus (590071) | about 10 months ago | (#43965387)

I mean really... why?

Now that Apple.com is updated, you can find out why - it's a cylinder because the GPUs and CPU are mounted around a central cooling core made from a single piece of aluminum with a single massive fan on top.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (2)

fuzzyfuzzyfungus (1223518) | about 10 months ago | (#43965389)

I mean really... why?

Apple appears to have decided that users just loved the good old days of SCSI-based external enclosure rat's nests accompanying their elegant all-in-ones, and have decided to update the technology accordingly.

Luckily, since external thunderbolt enclosures are alarmingly expensive and totally out of step with the new look, any attempt at expansion shouldn't be a dreadful mess!

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (1)

bkmoore (1910118) | about 10 months ago | (#43965469)

...Luckily, since external thunderbolt enclosures are alarmingly expensive and totally out of step with the new look, any attempt at expansion shouldn't be a dreadful mess!

That's why next year Apple will announce the iSixPack RAID array.

It's the largest Apple-branded dildo money can buy (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965405)

It even comes with input ports.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965451)

Why not?

Honestly, it's 2013. Gone are the days when you needed half a dozen pci cards to get anything done. No one shells out for a pro just to play games, so upgradable video cards aren't really an issue, but even if the DID want to play games the built-in graphics are more than plenty. Not many desk users need a machine with a dozen drives in it either. The new pro has thunderbolt2 which blows basically anything else out of the water, so for what few things you do need to connect it's perfectly fine.

If they can make a machine that's orders of magnitude faster in a smaller physical case, why wouldn't they? Also, label me a hipster if you want, but I'm totally happy having a computer that's not the same chunky block shape as every other machine since the dawn of time. Especially when the old design looked like a Star Wars industrial cheese grater.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (1)

larry bagina (561269) | about 10 months ago | (#43965535)

A: So goatse can shove it up his asshole.

Speaking of things that hurt my eyes, the iOS 7 springboard looks like a pool of vomit after I ate too much funfetti cake. Icons look like they were made with construction paper for an episode of south park. I don't care if Siri now gives blowjobs, I'm not "upgrading" to something that ugly.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (1)

gmuslera (3436) | about 10 months ago | (#43965557)

Wonder what icon it will have. That shape looks enough like a trashcan to help misplace some critical files.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (3, Interesting)

SoupIsGood Food (1179) | about 10 months ago | (#43965621)

Looking at the site [apple.com] - this thing is modular as all hell. Looks like a backplane at the bottom that everything plugs into... upgrade bits and pieces as required or tech progresses. It's kind of a bold thing to do.

They're also banking on PCIe3 being overkill for (current) workstation applications... TB2 being plenty for most use cases. Speaking of cases, expect lots and lots of cylindrical PCI expansion chassis and RAID arrays from third party soon. The old Unix workstation days are back, baby! Daisy-Chain 4 Lyfe! This actually makes sense, as few videographers will want to pop open the case on their editing workstation to add more storage, and special PCI card applications would probably be more at home in its own case with a robust power supply and cooling, anyhow. Sharing a small metal box with a pair of GPUs, high end CPU and some seriously serious RAM can be a little heated.

On the other hand, the gigabit ethernet is unforgivable. It really needs to be dual 10Gbase-T ports in this day and age.

Re:How stupid is a Mac Pro Cylinder? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965657)

I agree. It has no wi-fi. It has less space than a Nomad. It is, in a word, lame.

Looks like (4, Insightful)

Moses48 (1849872) | about 10 months ago | (#43965195)

The new IOS 7 UI looks an awful lot like another mobile UI I've seen without the 3d effect. We better check to see if flat images are patented or part of brand distinction.

Re:Looks like (3, Interesting)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 10 months ago | (#43965455)

The new UI is clean, sleek, minimal. Not at all like Apple's traditional skeuomorphic designs. More like Google's products, in fact.

Re:Looks like (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965603)

The real difference is one performs better than the other.

But . . . Design! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965457)

The new IOS 7 UI looks an awful lot like another mobile UI I've seen without the 3d effect.

Love how TFS gushes about Apple's placing importance on "design", and then represents a few trivial UI tweaks as "a total redesign".

Re:Looks like (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965507)

you know, when android came out everyone was bitching they ripped off ios. seriously, make up your minds. there's only so many ways you can draw a button, get over it.

Re:Looks like (1)

alen (225700) | about 10 months ago | (#43965511)

yeah
my HTC phone in 2010 had the animated weather screen by default. long before jelly bean.

google stole the idea as well

In Addition ... (4, Interesting)

jasnw (1913892) | about 10 months ago | (#43965211)

Things that caught my eye were (1) iCloud keychain to allow better mobile-system tracking of passwords within the iOS and OS X framework, (2) iBooks on Mac (FINALLY!), (3) some expanded multitasking in iOS 7 (although it's not clear if it's really extended capabilities over iOS 6 or just a spiffier UI), and (4) Airdrop from within iOS 7 to nearby devices. The new Mac Pro line looks sharp, and I definitely lust for one even if I don't need one.

Re:In Addition ... (1)

93 Escort Wagon (326346) | about 10 months ago | (#43965339)

iCloud Keychain needed to happen. Didn't MobileMe subscribers have that functionality in the past? In any case it is most welcome news.

iCloud iWork sounds interesting... but what's really missing from iWork is document sharing along the lines of Dropbox or Google Drive, at least if it's supposed to be more than just a toy. I suppose that could be part of the updates, but I didn't see anything along those lines mentioned in Engadget's live blog. Even for home use, though - I occasionally want to share documents with my wife. The current "email it to her" solution is straight out of 1995...

Re:In Addition ... (1)

jaymz666 (34050) | about 10 months ago | (#43965353)

The iCloud keychain really needs to be cross platform. Any tool like this really does.

So long lamedroid and windows mobilame. (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965213)

Once again Apple absolutely *schools* Google and Microsoft on how to design software. If you own stock in either of those companies, I'd advise you get on the phone and sell it NOW before the true impact of these announcements take hold.

Re:So long lamedroid and windows mobilame. (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965301)

I wouldn't sell the stock, I would simply give it away -- just as all three of the companies you mentioned give away your private details and content to the NSA.
 
  -- Ethanol-fueled

Re:So long lamedroid and windows mobilame. (1, Insightful)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 10 months ago | (#43965527)

On the contrary, Apple didn't really show anything very new here. Maybe the new Mac, but iOS 7 in particular is just an incremental upgrade with no big headline features like they have always had in the past.

Apple seems to have lost its spark, at a time when its rivals are releasing some really new and interesting stuff.

OMG Flat Icons! (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965219)

Jizzed in my pants.....

Seriously? Is this all they got? (0, Interesting)

DumbMarketingGuy (171031) | about 10 months ago | (#43965225)

I admit I was not one of those doom-mongers who predicted Apple's demise after the death of Steve Jobs. But it has to be said, this is a very poor show. Where is the next innovative product that will rub Microsoft's face in its own mediocrity? Where is the next iPad?

The AAPL stock price tells a sorry tale. Not long ago there was talk of it hitting $1000, now look at it.

This Tim Cook guy seems to lack the charisma of Steve Jobs. He doesn't have a reality distortion field. Perhaps he should consider at least wearing a black turtleneck?

As a tech-savvy geek who has been reading slashdot since the very early days (as can be seen from my very low UID) - I know my opinions on this subject should be taken very seriously.

Apple - please get your act together.

New Pool How many patents do they infringe ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965229)

Place your bets. How many companies and patent holdings will come forward in the next year claiming patent infringement ? LOL

tabs in the Finder window? (1)

Gothmolly (148874) | about 10 months ago | (#43965237)

For those of us NOT on the Mac bandwagon, what's Finder?

Re:tabs in the Finder window? (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965309)

It's the default file Navigator, like Explorer for Windows, Nautilus for GNOME, or Dolphin in KDE.

Re:tabs in the Finder window? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965317)

Windows Explorer

Re:tabs in the Finder window? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965321)

It's the Mac analogue of Windows Explorer.

Re:tabs in the Finder window? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965337)

For those of us NOT on the Mac bandwagon, what's Finder?

OSX equivalent of explorer.exe .. Basically the file system browser.

Re:tabs in the Finder window? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965359)

Mac equivalent of Windows Explorer

Re:tabs in the Finder window? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965659)

Careful, it doesn't take much to raise the ire of the mac fanboi. Ignorance of their religion is heresy.

new mac pro misses in a few areas (0)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 10 months ago | (#43965247)

I hope it's just more then one PCI-e X4 link power the 6 TB ports.

Flash storage sounds cool but at what cost? and size?

Dual GPU in a small case like that?

How will the dual GPU be hooked up I hope at least X8 X8 but can be as bad as X16 link split to 2 X8 X8 and a X4 for TB.

Windriod Phone? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965257)

Pretty much looks like a cross between Windows Phone and Android now, moreso the former.

Though the OS is at least someone distinguishable from those - the Weather app you could put side by side with Yahoo Weather and no one would be able to tell you which was which.

My Mac Sucks (4, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965281)

I don't want to start a holy war here, but what is the deal with you Mac fanatics? I've been sitting here at my freelance gig in front of a Mac (a 8600/300 w/64 Megs of RAM) for about 20 minutes now while it attempts to copy a 17 Meg file from one folder on the hard drive to another folder. 20 minutes. At home, on my Pentium Pro 200 running NT 4, which by all standards should be a lot slower than this Mac, the same operation would take about 2 minutes. If that.

In addition, during this file transfer, Netscape will not work. And everything else has ground to a halt. Even BBEdit Lite is straining to keep up as I type this.

I won't bore you with the laundry list of other problems that I've encountered while working on various Macs, but suffice it to say there have been many, not the least of which is I've never seen a Mac that has run faster than its Wintel counterpart, despite the Macs' faster chip architecture. My 486/66 with 8 megs of ram runs faster than this 300 mhz machine at times. From a productivity standpoint, I don't get how people can claim that the Macintosh is a superior machine.

Mac addicts, flame me if you'd like, but I'd rather hear some intelligent reasons why anyone would choose to use a Mac over other faster, cheaper, more stable systems.

Re:My Mac Sucks (-1, Funny)

DumbMarketingGuy (171031) | about 10 months ago | (#43965423)

I think I can help here. As I have a masters degree in Marketing Science from a well known institution.

It basically boils down to this: Are you a 'hipster'? Apple have constantly targetted a certain demographic with their hardware, a demographic of people who value form over function, aesthetics over practicality, frivolity over pragmatism. This can be seen in their cringeworthy 'I'm a Mac and I'm a PC' advertising campaign.

To hipsters such as these, the actual technical specs of the computer are the last thing on their mind when they slap down $2000 of their trust fund in their local 'apple store'. All they care about is will it impress the hipster chicks when they whip it out in their local 'artisan' coffee shop.

Which just goes to prove that marketing will alway triumph over technical specifications. (see also: why do people use a pile of shit OS like Windows 8?)

Re:My Mac Sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965553)

Well-known, as in Walmart?

Actually the lesson I take is there there are whole bunch of technical guys who have zero aesthetic appreciation. A UNIX dev laptop which doesn't flex when you lift it, has a nice screen and doesn't have stickers all over it. As a special bonus, all the hardware is properly working, and the OS can render fonts without looking like ass.

Re:My Mac Sucks (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965593)

If you're a "freelancer" and working on a 8600, you must be very thin.

Summary fail (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965323)

Macs will now support multiple displays, including HDTVs,

Um....
Macs have supported multiple displays for something like 20 years. They've supported HDTVs since DVI-HDMI adapters were invented. The news here is that OSX Mavericks has significantly improved multi-monitor management, such as the ability to have a menu bar and dock on all screens simultaneously and new window grouping features.

I know it's hip to complain about how the editors can do basic fact checking, but this is ridiculous.

Is it me (4, Interesting)

AmiMoJo (196126) | about 10 months ago | (#43965327)

Is it me or is iOS 7 a total rip-off of Android and Google's apps? Same flat style icons, same "cards", similar notifications and on-going events, similar features etc,

I'm just... surprised.

Re:Is it me (2)

alen (225700) | about 10 months ago | (#43965435)

except for the wifi/bluetooth and the other radio buttons, these have been on IOS for years in the multi tasking bar
app store has had cards for at least a year now if not longer

they got rid of scott forestall last year and he was the one who refused any changes to IOS. once they got rid of him it was pretty easy to make the changes

Re:Is it me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965561)

Kinda how like when Android came out it was supposed to be a ripoff of IOS? Round and round we go.....

Re:Is it me (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965661)

Is it me or is Linux just a total rip-off of numerous versions of UNIX?

Multiple displays since 1987 (4, Insightful)

immaterial (1520413) | about 10 months ago | (#43965341)

We waited a half hour after the end of the keynote for this terrible summary, really? Multiple-monitor support has been in the Mac OS since 1987; the summary doesn't make it even reportedly clear that today's announcement was about (much-needed, IMO) new features for said ability. And "including hdtvs"? Again, this has been possible since hdtvs came into existence (via hdmi out or div->hdmi adapters). The new feature here is being able to use an airplay-cable device as a secondary display.

Re:Multiple displays since 1987 (1)

immaterial (1520413) | about 10 months ago | (#43965441)

"Reportedly" -> "Remotely"

Now I'm angry iOS 7 doesn't include read-your-mind autocorrect.

Re:Multiple displays since 1987 (3, Insightful)

jittles (1613415) | about 10 months ago | (#43965653)

We waited a half hour after the end of the keynote for this terrible summary, really? Multiple-monitor support has been in the Mac OS since 1987; the summary doesn't make it even reportedly clear that today's announcement was about (much-needed, IMO) new features for said ability. And "including hdtvs"? Again, this has been possible since hdtvs came into existence (via hdmi out or div->hdmi adapters). The new feature here is being able to use an airplay-cable device as a secondary display.

OS X has THE worst multi-monitor support in the industry. Without question. I actually broke down and sold my secondary display because it is next to worthless on a Mac. I like to run XCode in full-screen mode (more real estate for dual pane mode). The second monitor is literally just a gray colored paper weight in this mode. Do I really need to use my air-play compatible device as a second display? Not at all. It will still be useless to me.

"Summary" (1)

54mc (897170) | about 10 months ago | (#43965391)

This is about the longest TFS I've ever seen. It's only about half the length of the full article!

only 1 build in SDD card? and no E-sata? (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 10 months ago | (#43965417)

only 1 build in SDD card? No build in raid at all? and for some pro work loads like video that will be way to small.

Seem low and the chip set has lot's of sata ports that are going unused.

So, no iPhone 6? (1)

VP (32928) | about 10 months ago | (#43965433)

What is the current guess at a release date for it?

Re:So, no iPhone 6? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965637)

Clearly you have not been paying attention. Mobile devices have moved to a fall release schedule.

Hi, since this is a Troll "article:" (-1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965501)

MacBook Pro

Although the new MacBook Air is available today, Apple wanted to offer a “sneak peek” of the Mac Pro, which it dubbed “the future of the pro desktop” on the main screen. The device, with dual AMD CPUs, resembles a squat coffee-maker from the future (it’s supposedly a mere eighth the volume of the old Mac Pro); it’s coming later this year.

Coffe maker?!?

Well, I gues that's what Apple homos want - a squat looking coffee maker to resemble a guy bending over for anal sex.

Or Steve Job's Liver after he went for hoky poky "alternative" treatments - while being on the liver transplant in Tennessee booting off local kids just because he was a billionaire - It's good to be King!

I'd like to mention that Taco-what-his-name or What's-his-name-Taco - does in fact cry himself to sleep and then cries all the way to the bank when he thinks of Slashdot and what it has become. When he counts his millions, a single tear runs down his cheek when he thinks about Slashdot - really.

I'm done Trolling - on this thread.

back doors included (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965513)

probably it comes already with back-doors so the government can snoop on you.

The Post-PC world is a little shaky (3, Informative)

The Cat (19816) | about 10 months ago | (#43965515)

Looking at all the work Apple has done on that Mac Pro and Macbook Air, it seems they aren't putting all their eggs in the mobile basket any more.

Good to see some common sense. Post-PC is marketing hype. The PC will be standard technology for at least the next 100 years.

Re:The Post-PC world is a little shaky (1)

alen (225700) | about 10 months ago | (#43965567)

the point is that in post-pc you buy the mobile devices more often and they bring in more profit and value

the PC will be there but its something you only buy once in a while because you use your mobile device more

PCIe flash in the Mac Pro (1)

Lucas123 (935744) | about 10 months ago | (#43965521)

Mac Pro’s flash internal storage will offer an astoundingly fast 1.25GBps reads and 1.0GBps writes. That's great, but is this a sign of things to come? Like a Macbook Pro with PCIe flash? Oh, the possibilities...

Sharks here at Slashdot (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965537)

Why no mention/comments of the new hardware being assembled in the USA?

What am I missing? (0)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965579)

What am I missing here? Slide to unlock? Slide up control panel? This is stuff I've had since 2.0 on Android. Better multi-tasking? I'm running two apps at once side-by-side on the same screen with my S4 right now.

only 1 cpu hurts it next to High end PC workstions (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 10 months ago | (#43965583)

only 1 cpu hurts it next to High end PC workstations can have X2 the cpu power and X2 the ram bandwidth.

as well Full X16 pci-e slots that are faster then TB.

wrong name for osx (1)

Anonymous Coward | about 10 months ago | (#43965599)

this is only osx 10.9.. 10.10 is supposed to be maverick.

Tubular in 1984? (1)

SteveSgt (3465) | about 10 months ago | (#43965605)

1. iOS7: Multitasking? It's about time. What is this, 1984?

2. Mac Pro Desktop: All of that tubular elegance is going lost in a rats-nest of external boxes and cables because all of the expansion of that chassis has to be external--there's no internal room for optical drives, RAID arrays, media card readers/writers, etc. And SSDs big enough for media production are still way too expensive. And how do you rack mount a dozen of them in the machine room of a video editing suite (as I've done many times in my business)?

Apple needs a mini + with a good desktop cpu (1)

Joe_Dragon (2206452) | about 10 months ago | (#43965607)

Apple needs a mini + with a good desktop cpu and a good (can be build video chip) may be at $800-$1200 as I see the new mac pro at $2,500-$3,000 base.

iOS 7, the most advanced form of Android yet (-1, Troll)

TheSkepticalOptimist (898384) | about 10 months ago | (#43965619)

Honestly, if you are not tired of Apple's excessive and awesome hyperbole then you must be extremely and definitively deaf.

Also every "new" feature Tim Cook announced in iOS 7 I am thinking about how Android already does that. Apple needed to bring iOS 7 back into the 21st century as everyone else seems to have move forward with flatter looks and innovative features, but Apple is decidedly playing the game of "Lets take every Android feature and make it slightly better".

Also OS X is looking decidedly antiquated. When they were showing off OS X Mavericks (really Apple?) I couldn't believe how old it looked. Also they stopped making OS X internally better, instead every new version of OS X is simply a package update of the apps running on it.

As for Mac Pro, while it will sell like well to many graphic designers and video editors at first, about a year after its release people will feel the backlash of buying an uber-expensive sealed box with limited upgrade-ability. Forget about slapping in a new GPU or CPU or memory to boost video editing or rendering performance, you will have to buy a whole new sealed box. Apple just slapped every professional in the face by forcing them to upgrade their Mac Pro more quickly then "every other decade". Once customers get tired of stroking their expensive new black cylinder they are going to realize the pain of getting screwed by it.

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