iOS 6 Adoption Rates Soar Following Google Maps Release 143
redletterdave writes "The Dec. 12 reinstatement of Google Maps on iOS has apparently been enough for some of those reluctant users to finally make the upgrade to iOS 6. According to MoPub, the San Francisco-based mobile ad exchange that monitors more than 1 billion ad impressions a day and supports more than a dozen ad networks and 12,000 apps, there has been a 29 percent increase in unique iOS 6 users in the past five days following Google Maps' release on iOS. In fact, MoPub reports a 13 percent increase in iOS 6 users from last Monday to Wednesday alone, which would mean that nearly half of the converts to iOS 6 in the past week switched the very moment Google Maps' standalone app hit the App Store."
Great! (Score:3, Interesting)
Now how about getting the version for iPads too?
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You can still use the iPhone version on your iPad while they rework the UI for the iPad version. I'm sure they didn't want to burden their rushed development by doing two UI's at the same time.
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Google's all about not re-inventing the wheel - and that's where they contribute to open source. But when they reinvent the car, they will charge for that. What's your problem?
China (Score:5, Insightful)
Does this take into account the fact that the iPhone was released in China last weekend and may have caused a spike?
Re:China (Score:5, Informative)
This article from an iOS advertising platform company pretty much confirms that: http://insights.chitika.com/2012/ios-6-adoption-post-google-maps/ [chitika.com]
Basically, when google maps was released for iOS 6, their data shows that it had no immediate impact on iOS 6 adoption and continued to have no impact for 5 days afterwards. Once the iPhone 5 was released in China, then there was a nice little spike in iOS 6 usage.
Basically, if you look at it week-by-week, it could look like Google Maps caused a spike in iOS 6 adoption, but when you look at it day-by-day it tells a different story.
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Because it's entirely off-topic?
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For this particular topic, yeah, it is.
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Perhaps people waited.
Take me, for example. I downloaded the new Google Maps when it came out on December 14th. But it's not like I immediately upgraded to iOS 6. I did that this past Monday, December 17th.
Hell, I'm not going to risk upgrading until I actually make sure things are going to work. I know, call me crazy...
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I upgraded eons ago and never regretted it. Apple Maps is actually not as bad as people made it to be, and Google Maps was always available through Safari anyways. This is all just FUD and people being afraid of something nonexistent.
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I would guess you are in the US, where it isn't that bad. Near me, in the well populated southern UK, it has lost one and displaced one of the significant towns in my immediate area - places I frequently visit. The latter is the place I nominally live - where I pay my local taxes. Obviously, because I know my own patch pretty well, I don't need to map these places. But it means my confidence in it mapping a place I don't know is essentially zero,
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I would guess you are in the US
And you would be wrong.
There were some glaring mistakes, but they were all fixed pretty quickly - in a matter of days or weeks. Tell me this: are your neighborhood towns still misplaced on Apple Maps? If not, do you have an idea when it was fixed?
Re:China (Score:4, Informative)
Yes, Marlborough still gone, replaced by Ogbourn St Andrew, a tiny village nearby, and Basingstoke has moved six miles west to the approximate location of Watership Down.Searching for Crawley takes you to the hamlet in Hampshire not the major town by Gatwick Airport, and searching for Crawley, Sussex finds some sort of health club in Burgess Hill, twenty miles away. They did manage quite quickly to remove Burghclere Station, closed in 1960 and now buried under the Newbury Bypass (after putting it very conveniently close to my home, instead of two miles, where it actually had been).
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Even right in the middle of a major area like St. Louis, it did pretty poorly for me.
But if you need more convincing, See this blog full of terrible screenshots [tumblr.com]!
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Ok, but how long did it last?
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How long did what last?
post hoc ergo propter hoc (Score:5, Interesting)
Post hoc ergo propter hoc strikes again.
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Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur?
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The Techcrunch retraction [techcrunch.com]:
"[Update: One fact that may confound this data is that roughly 2 million iPhone 5s went online in China over the say timespan as the study analyzed, and they may have contributed to the increased iOS 6 traffic data. However, those phones aren't likely enough to account for the entire boost in iOS 6 traffic to MoPub-partnered apps.]"
No it didnt (Score:5, Informative)
Ummm no it didn't. It was because of the iPhone being released in China. Check Macrumors (where I saw the original and correction).
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Re:No it didnt (Score:5, Informative)
Yep, already discredited: http://insights.chitika.com/2012/ios-6-adoption-post-google-maps/ [chitika.com]
Re:No it didnt (Score:5, Funny)
iPhone was only released in China because Google Maps became available for it.
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iPhone was only released in China because Google Maps became available for it.
It would have launched earlier, but the UPS guy got sent to Peru.
Rumour has it he's under arrest for stealing one of the phones.
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Maybe not all of China:
Hong [tumblr.com] Kong [tumblr.com] seems to be missing all sorts of information.
Oh, and part of China [tumblr.com] has made an appearance in Poland.
And how.... (Score:2)
did you think Apple found china? By using google maps of course
Such a great love for Google Maps (Score:1)
Re:Such a great love for Google Maps (Score:5, Insightful)
I do tend to wonder, if Google Maps is so pivotal to the widespread adoption of iOS 6, would we begin to see a lot of people moving toward Android phones if Google removed their maps from the iOS App Store?
We might, but Google is under significant anti-trust scrutiny so I doubt they would actually try it. I also doubt that it would be in Google's interest. Google doesn't make much (if anything) off of Android. Its purpose is to funnel mobile users to Google services like Google Maps.
Re:Such a great love for Google Maps (Score:5, Interesting)
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This. If I didn't still have 6 months left on my contract with Verizon on my iPhone 4, I'd have bought the Nexus 4 on day one. Google Maps was fully half that equation (public transit directions are absolutely critical for me on a smartphone); having grown accustomed to my Nexus 7 being the other. As it is, even with the standalone Google Maps app it'll be a tough call between buying the Nexus 4, staying with the iPhone 4, or buying the iPhone 5 come time my contract is up. So far the latter is seeming to b
If you really care about transit IOS is far better (Score:5, Interesting)
public transit directions are absolutely critical for me on a smartphone
If you really feel that way, you will be far better served using iOS going forward.
I have used Google Transit a LOT over the years. When you use it in multiple cities, or for a long time every day, you grow to realize that the data it's giving you is mediocre. Yes it generally works but it's often out of touch with the way buses are really running, and if you investigate where the data comes from it's all static files updated infrequently by the metro companies in each city.
A third party app can cover cities much better, integrating more deeply into the existing metro data stream. There's already an app for iOS called simply Transit [tapone.ca] (careful, more than one exist) that seems to have the same coverage Google Transit does, and has better presentation of transit data than Google. You not only get a list of possible transit combinations with stops and walking, but it also adds extra details like "this one is slower but has less walking". When scrolling through the segments of the selected route Transit does a great job of showing the route on the map, giving you the estimated departure and arrival times for the bus picking you up and dropping you off.
So already iOS users get better transit directions than Google Maps gives you, and the transit situation on iOS will only get better as time goes by. With Apple directing people to third party apps there is a TON of motivation to build a really good custom metro app for every city because customers will be herded right to your app outside the crowded app store.
It's funny that so many people talk about how Apple should allow you to chose a browser or mail client (which would be useful) but then claim it's pointless or unnecessary to have a map where you can chose the best application to give you transit directions. Why should that area be immune from letting third parties do a better job, especially when it's just not possible to do the best job for every city across the globe?
Especially combined with the trick of asking Siri "Take me to *LocationX* via transit" you have simple one-click transit routing to anywhere quickly and with the best transit directions you can get.
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It's funny that so many people talk about how Apple should allow you to chose a browser or mail client (which would be useful) but then claim it's pointless or unnecessary to have a map where you can chose the best application to give you transit directions. Why should that area be immune from letting third parties do a better job, especially when it's just not possible to do the best job for every city across the globe?
Unlike Apple, Google doesn't block third party apps that compete with its own services and there *are* third party mapping programs on Android.
They exist but are lost (Score:2, Informative)
Unlike Apple, Google doesn't block third party apps that compete with its own services
Apple doesn't do that any more either. There are scores of map, mail and browser apps in the App Store.
They may be limiting the number of fart apps, a great loss to the market I'm sure.
there *are* third party mapping programs on Android.M
And they will suck utterly compared to the third party transit apps on iOS, because they are lost in the middle of all the other applications. With Google providing you mediocre transit
Re:They exist but are lost (Score:4, Insightful)
They may be limiting the number of fart apps, a great loss to the market I'm sure.
When I can download another browser I'll agree with you. Until then this post screams of closing your eyes, sticking fingers in your ears and going "lalala"
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They may be limiting the number of fart apps, a great loss to the market I'm sure.
When I can download another browser I'll agree with you. Until then this post screams of closing your eyes, sticking fingers in your ears and going "lalala"
There's a small software and search company called "Google" that has an alternative browser on the App Store. It's called Chrome. Maybe you've heard of it?
http://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/browser/mobile/ios.html [google.com]
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Oh I've heard of Chrome. It just doesn't exist on iOS. All you get on iOS devices is a skin that looks like Chrome which uses iOS's built-in Webkit API.
This is not an alternative browser, just like putting a shiny little red green blue yellow start button on KDE and calling it Lindows did not make it a Windows platform instead of a Linux platform.
Actually this entire thread is a fun read. Either you're really in "lalala" mode or you completely and utterly missed the point I was trying to make and are refusi
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So Google Chrome is not Google Chrome because it runs on iOS?
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Surely you realize that's just a wrapper around an iOS service? You are either disingenuously misinterpreting the GP to discredit their criticism, or really have no clue about the state of competing browsers on iOS (ie, there are none, only wrappers and bookmark/history syncing).
It's an app built on the WebKit engine provided on iOS, yes, but that's not what the OP said.
He said:
When I can download another browser I'll agree with you.
So, would you agree that Safari and Chrome are two different browsers, even if they both use the same WebKit API?
Alternatively there are other browsers on iOS that offload the rendering to a remote server and don't use WebKit, but I figured "Chrome vs Safari" was an easy enough distinction to make given that the criterion was "a different browser [to Safari]".
I have to wonder how you can say there are "no co
Re:They exist but are lost (Score:4, Informative)
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No actually, Chrome on iOS uses a slower (and less powerful) version of the webkit engine than Safari does. More specifically, Chrome on iOS is blocked from using the Nitro javascript engine that Safari has access to, and is not allowed to use it's own javascript JIT compiler, due to Apple's guidelines. So no, Chrome on iOS is a shadow of it's form on other platforms. This basically means that Safari remains by design, and not by chance, the best and most performant browser on iOS.
So, what you;re saying is that it's a different browser? Thus fulfilling the OP's request for, quote:
When I can download another browser I'll agree with you.
I'm not seeing how there can simultaneously be no competition between browsers on iOS because "they're all the same" but also be... different.
Also, the speed difference between the JS engines was down to the way the security model and sandboxing was set up - the newer, faster engine (ie, the same one Safari uses) was put into the public API at a later time. The speed parity did not last long. The same issue
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You haters ought to get together and discuss what FUD you're going to spread. I pays to be consistent.
Stop playing semantic games and just admit that there are no real alternative browsers, only wrappers around Apple's version of webkit, or some Frankensteinian monstrosity that offloads processing to the server.. Anyway, I joined this conversation to make a point and now must leave it point made, whether or not the recipient of my words understood them.
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You haters ought to get together and discuss what FUD you're going to spread. I pays to be consistent.
Stop playing semantic games and just admit that there are no real alternative browsers, only wrappers around Apple's version of webkit, or some Frankensteinian monstrosity that offloads processing to the server.. Anyway, I joined this conversation to make a point and now must leave it point made, whether or not the recipient of my words understood them.
Haha. So arguments that you disagree with are "semantic games".
Ok, kid.
Now we're talking about no "real" alternatives, whereas before it was "there are NO alternatives".
*aims for the goal*
*goalposts move*
*oops!*
Intellectual dishonesty at its finest; move the goalposts after the fact and then declare my argument invalid based on the new criteria. You can do better.
Why is it not viable? (Score:2)
admit that there are no real alternative browsers
In order to do that I would have to believe that every website needed a fast Javascript engine.
Since they don't, you should really stop digging.
I use alternate browsers for a variety of things. It's absurd to claim there are none, since a huge part of the reason to use something like Chrome is you prefer the controls, bookmarking or how multiple browser windows work.
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Now we're talking about no "real" alternatives, whereas before it was "there are NO alternatives".
If there are no real alternatives, there are no alternatives. The fact is there is no Opera browser on an iPhone, only an Opera wrapper around Safari. If you're still running Safari, you're hardly using an alternative.
No goalposts were moved, you're simply splitting hairs and being disingenuous. How much Apple stock do you own, fellow? None? Then you're as much a fool for defending them than the ones defending
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So, what you;re saying is that it's a different browser? Thus fulfilling the OP's request for, quote:
Put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig. Why do you persist in this stupidity when it's clear you didn't interpret what I said the way I meant it (most probably because you don't have a clue as to the arcane restrictions Apple places on apps).
You can't download any Gecko, or Presto engine browsers. You can't download any Webkit engine browsers that differ in Webkit from the Safari versions (Chrome webkit != Safari webkit).
All I get is a skin from another browser that inherits Safari's rendering bugs.
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So, what you;re saying is that it's a different browser? Thus fulfilling the OP's request for, quote:
Put lipstick on a pig and it's still a pig. Why do you persist in this stupidity when it's clear you didn't interpret what I said the way I meant it (most probably because you don't have a clue as to the arcane restrictions Apple places on apps).
You can't download any Gecko, or Presto engine browsers. You can't download any Webkit engine browsers that differ in Webkit from the Safari versions (Chrome webkit != Safari webkit).
All I get is a skin from another browser that inherits Safari's rendering bugs.
No, you didn't "mean it" honestly. You are attempting to make the argument that two different browsers are the same browser because they share a common rendering engine. I am calling that argument what it is: nonsense.
The only reason you're sticking to this ludicrous argument is because an apple hater troll made the argument that there were no competing browsers on iOS (clearly having not done any research on the topic), and you're now desperately twisting in the wind trying to manufacture evidence and rede
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Oh I've heard of Chrome. It just doesn't exist on iOS. All you get on iOS devices is a skin that looks like Chrome which uses iOS's built-in Webkit API.
This is not an alternative browser, just like putting a shiny little red green blue yellow start button on KDE and calling it Lindows did not make it a Windows platform instead of a Linux platform.
Actually this entire thread is a fun read. Either you're really in "lalala" mode or you completely and utterly missed the point I was trying to make and are refusing to let yourself be corrected. Either way it's an entertaining way to start the first day after the end of the world.
No, I didn't miss your point. Your point is intellectually dishonest.
Chrome and Safari on iOS are two different browsers. That is the argument. The share a common rendering engine. This doesn't matter. Fedora and Ubuntu share the same kernel. Does that make them the same product?
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Using the term 'hater' to describe an opponent in an argument is a cultish practice.
It's almost always Apple zealots who use the term.
Yeah. Asserting the above makes me a hater. Scientologists use this kind of semantics to keep themselves safely separate from 'the rest of us' too.
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You're in lala land. But, whatever. It's probably kinda fun.
Is that what we're calling reality now?
I'd be interested in your response to the question: are Ubuntu and Fedora the same product?
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First look at how many map and map related titles there are for iOS and then tell me again how they're being blocked. There are almost too many to choose from. The selection is quite granular.
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I moved from a droid to an iphone 5. To each their own.
Aside from myself I don't know anyone switching, or wanting to switch, platforms.
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Also, many people in the US might be waiting for their contracts to expire before moving to an Android phone from the iPhone.
Perhaps. But there's this: http://www.kantarworldpanel.com/Global/News/Soaring-iPhone-5-sales-in-US-knock-Android-into-second-place [kantarworldpanel.com]
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Since you haven't had any problem with iOS maps, why don't you write to Mr Cook and demand he make a public apology for his public apology regarding iOS maps. Fiasco? No way. Mr Cook is wrong, iOS maps is a great product - the nerve of the guy, telling users to use other map apps!
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I've been using Apple maps for a while, and I've had fewer problems with it than I used to have with google maps (it'd often direct me to businesses that had gone out of business). Of course, neither of these services is really up to Apple's standards. Forstall was ousted for pollitical reasons, not simply because he released a product that wasn't up to Apple's standards (this was hardly his first). I don't know why software in general has such poor quality, but Apple's been scraping by with deeply flawed s
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We had advisories from "concerned" police that Apple's service was potentially life-threatening [arnnet.com.au].
Not ruling out the advisories may have been overblown, but yeah... that's a fiasco alright.
Not as life threatening as Google Maps (Score:2, Insightful)
From the same continent, an even worse story about the dangers of Google Maps - sending people the wrong way down a dangerously narrow one way road [inquisitr.com]. It comes with a similar warning from police not to rely on Google Maps.
Apple's error has affected a handful of people (one that we know of), while Google's error affects a great deal more people since it's a road along the sea-side where a huge amount of tourist traffic exists.
So can we infer from your post that Google Maps is a fiasco a decade in the making?
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However, if I were running low on fuel in a near-desert region like the one you've referenced (I've never been there but I imagine with few street signs), I imagine I would consider misplacing a town 70 km is probably significantly more dangerous.
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However, if I were running low on fuel in a near-desert region like the one you've referenced
And why would someone smart enough to read street signs be low on fuel in a remote region?
Again, it's more about the possible number of people impacted.
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And why would someone smart enough to read street signs be low on fuel in a remote region?
Well, to state the obvious, because you were looking for the 70km misplaced town with the only gas station for miles around.
Again, it's more about the possible number of people impacted.
No, it's about the danger. Lost with no fuel and water in a desert, potentially all occupants dead. Inconvenienced by a one way road when you see the sign, a spat with the spouse. Although depending on the intensity of the argument, maybe one death...
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I travel into remote parts of Utah and Colorado all the time. You are an idiot if you do not go there with 3x the gas you need to get back, end of story. I have never come close to running out of gas, even if I did veer off to some much longer than expected side roads because maps were misleading (like traveling 20 miles down a dirt road before it became a high-clearance affair that was not marked on the map and you had to go back).
Sorry, but there's no excuse AND Apple fixed the error immediately. Googl
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My bad, I misread the headline.
However it makes the issue much worse, because if it really were the wrong way there would be signs telling you not to go that way. So you really don't have any idea what you are in for when you head down that road.
Thanks for the correction.
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We might, but Google is under significant anti-trust scrutiny so I doubt they would actually try it.
While I agree it's unlikely I guarantee you that anti-trust would not make one iota of a difference here. There's absolutely nothing in any antitrust law that says you need to support your competitors product with your app. Actually it's quite the opposite. The fact that maps is so wide spread that it is the app of choice on a competitors platform is unlikely to be doing them favours.
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Why would Google care? (Score:5, Insightful)
Would we begin to see a lot of people moving toward Android phones if Google removed their maps from the iOS App Store?
The funny thing is that at the highest levels, Google and Apple really do not care about each other the way the fans at the lowest level seem to.
Google just wants to make great data driven apps that in turn drive a lot of data their way. If Android falters they will shrug and simply keep producing apps for the leading platforms. Obviously they would prefer Android to keep doing well because they collect more data that way.
Apple just wants to make and sell hardware as well made as they can, continuing down the road of integrating software and hardware to the greatest degree possible. They are happy to have well executed applications run on iOS; after all, it moves more hardware. It was pretty funny to watch people speculate on Slashdot that Google Maps would be blocked from the App Store when there were so many other mapping apps on the store already, and obviously Apple wants good applications because they help sell iOS devices.
So Google would not pull Google Maps from the App Store because it helps them, and Apple will not block it because it helps them.
But even if for some reason Google went nuts I don't think it would affect iOS much, there are too many other high quality mapping solutions already (including Apple's own maps).
Re:Why would Google care? (Score:4, Interesting)
Google and Apple really do not care about each other the way the fans at the lowest level seem to.
Ah, so when Steve Jobs said "I'm going to destroy Android! I'm going thermonuclear on them, I will spend every last cent of Apple's $40b in the bank to destroy Android!", he actually meant something more like:
"Ah, jolly good chaps those Google folk, helping us sell our devices by making fantastic apps!"
I'm glad we have you to clarify that. Then again, I'm not quite sure your theory maps completely onto reality.
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Ah, so when Steve Jobs said "I'm going to destroy Android! I'm going thermonuclear on them, I will spend every last cent of Apple's $40b in the bank to destroy Android!", he actually meant something more like
I was not aware Zombie Steve Jobs was running the company.
His reality sure warped you!
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This falls apart when you consider that Apple doesn't let you run your own OS on their hardware.
Yes they do. Explicitly so on Macs (bootcamp is Apple not just allowing Windows to run on Macs but providing drivers too) but they don't do anything to stop people from running Android or Linux on iOS devices (which has been done off and on).
They make it as hard as possible to run Windows on a Mac
That's where your whole argument falls apart as Bootcamp makes a mac the easiest Windows install outside pre-loads b
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...crickets...
Re:Why would Google care? (Score:5, Informative)
Apple doesn't let you run your own OS on their hardware. They make it as hard as possible to run Windows on a Mac, they've been caught trying to prevent Linux from overtaking the boot loader.
That is a complete lie. Why are you spreading FUD?
Running Windows on a Macbook is extremely easy, and actually fully supported by Apple. Yes, they *SUPPORT* this - providing the best hardware driver install and update infrastructure I have ever seen in windows. Seriously - I only own high end laptops whether they are Apple or "PC", and running Windows on a Macbook is more pleasant than any Lenovo, HP, etc I've owned.
See: Bootcamp: http://www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/ [apple.com]
Regarding Linux - You do need to be aware that Macbooks use EFI, but installing Linux on a Macbook is trivial. I only ever run linux in VM's these days. Why bother running Linux when I have a fully POSIX compliant operating system already running natively? ( FWIW I am no stranger to linux. In a past life I was an *NIX server admin, with many years experience.)
I've been running both Windows and Linux on Macbooks for over 5 years, and they both work just fine. So now, will you explain your lies?
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The Windows drivers for Apple hardware (especially their trackpads and their special versions of otherwise-commodity graphics cards) are crap compared to what is normally available for Windows (yes, Apple graphics card drivers are even crappier than normal graphics drivers, on Windows), but it is still the only OEM I know of that makes it that easy to run a competitor's software on their hardware. They've already made their huge profit margin on the hardware though, so why not?
Re:Why would Google care? (Score:4, Informative)
This falls apart when you consider that Apple doesn't let you run your own OS on their hardware. They make it as hard as possible to run Windows on a Mac, they've been caught trying to prevent Linux from overtaking the bootloader. You cant run anything except IOS on an Ipod, Ipad or Iphone desipte it being the exact same hardware that runs Android and Windows Phone8/RT.
No, Apple wants you locked into their ecosystem. Why?
Because they make more money from you that way.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha,
Don't give up your day job. When Apple cant even put train stations on train lines, you cant call it quality.
I see you've never used a Mac before, but don't worry - you're not the only one spouting such hilariously cute ignorance.
Installing Windows on a Mac features these "extremely difficult" steps:
1. Buy Windows (DVD or iso direct from Microsoft)
2. Run Bootcamp Assistant
* this partitions your HD (even your boot drive, changing the partition size as needed) to the sizes you choose.
* it also downloads all the drivers you need for Mac hardware.
* it then makes a bootable USB windows installer disk and includes all those drivers and software tools (you can choose to make a bootable DVD if you like)
3. Reboot Mac with this USB stick connected.
4. Install Windows
5. Run software package on USB to install all the drivers.
If you think that is "making it as hard as possible", then I am wondering if you have velcro shoes, because laces must be a total mystery to you.
Have I rationally rebutted your argument enough to call you a hater yet?
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Really?
Hmm...I've not had problems putting Linux on mac hardware replacing OSX. I've never tried windows, as that I rarely have a need for MS Windows.
For times I do need windows, I run it easily in VMWare....
Especially if you consider VMs, there is absolutely not problem runn
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And if we really want, we can eat spaghetti through our nose. But it's awkward, uncomfortable, and messy.
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Avoid spaghetti aglio olio e pepperoncino..
It's from China (Score:5, Informative)
Now do the fuckwit editors here (Score:1, Insightful)
have the self-respect to pull this piece of bullshit from their front page, or will they just roll on to the next?
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reticent =/= reluctant
"reticent" $\notequal$ "reluctant"
reticent is NOT equal to and does not mean reluctant
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have the self-respect to pull this piece of bullshit from their front page, or will they just roll on to the next?
Option 2 captain.
note to editors: "reticent" $\noteq$ "reluctant" (Score:2)
"reticent" $\notequal$ "reluctant"
reticent â reluctant
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How many ways can I type that "not-equal sign"? (not in unicode, obvviously damn it) Seriously, to paraphrase Inigo Montoya [wikipedia.org], that word in this article summary does NOT mean what they think it means.
Reticent [wiktionary.org] can mean modest or keeping something to oneself, or keeping quiet about something.
Reluctant [wiktionary.org] can mean not willing or inclined to do something, which is the meaning that must have been intended.
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Seriously, do th
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reticent =/= reluctant
"reticent" $\notequal$ "reluctant"
reticent â reluctant
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How many ways can I type that "not-equal sign"?
Normal people would write <> or !=
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I don't think that less-than-or-greater-than would apply because the use of "lessthan" or "greaterthan" implies the presence of a partial ordering, and though words are ordered alphabetically, I am talking about inequality. "a \lt \gt b" (sort of) implies "a \lt b" or "b \lt a", which also implies some ordering. You are, however, correct that "!=" would also work and be correctly interpreted. The fact that I could not get the unicode "not-equal sign" to b
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I don't think that less-than-or-greater-than would apply because the use of "lessthan" or "greaterthan" implies the presence of a partial ordering, and though words are ordered alphabetically, I am talking about inequality.
Most people around here know a bit of coding, and in (among others) BASIC, Pascal and SQL the <> operator means not-equal-to. The != comes from C-like languages.
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Funnily enough, the french word for reluctant is "reticent". (Arrrgh, it's 2012 and Slashdot still doesn't do UTF8 properly...)
Maybe the original poster has fallen for this common faux pas. The less said about the editors the better.
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I warned them (Score:1)
What about the week prior? (Score:1)
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I found some data points at 24 and 48 hours after the initial release of iOS6 and another after a week. First, a broad statement which seems a little like speculation:
"..within the first day, iOS 6 peaked at more than 15 percent of Web traffic to its mobile ad network.." [allthingsd.com]
Then something that seems more like data that isn't going away:
iOS 6 on 25% of iOS Devices 48 Hours After Public Release [chitika.com]
And finally:
iOS 6 Adoption At Just Over One Week: 60% For iPhone And 41% For iPad" [techcrunch.com]
I upgraded for the Google maps app (Score:3)
My iDevice was running the least-outdated version of iOS 4 and not being too bothered about these things I never got round to updating it. Also, I was a bit leery about installing a new major release until the early adopters had suffered through the kinks. The release of the Google map app, which requires iOS 5.something or later was enough reason to finally upgrade.
IOS6 means surrendering some rights to free speech (Score:2)
I jailbreak my IOS device for one very important reason: /etc/hosts. This is VERY important to me. If I access an internet resource, there's nothing stopping it from telling my device, "Hey, also get this other resource without asking the user for permission!" In other words, it speaks on my behalf. My right to free speech also means freedom from compulsory speech. /etc/hosts means that I can control which resources are accessed on my behalf.
Apple (and all other money-making enterprises) hate this notio
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I'm impressed with this news too, since it made it to the front page of /. even though it's completely wrong.
Re:Most impressed with reach of this news (Score:4, Insightful)
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You must be new here.,
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Yet you weren't worried at all about the ones it created? That seems a bit shortsighted.