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iPad Is Destroying Netbook Sales

CmdrTaco posted more than 4 years ago | from the good-for-someone dept.

Businesses 911

Hugh Pickens writes "Fortune magazine reports that sales growth of low-cost, low-powered netbooks peaked last summer at an astonishing 641% year-over-year growth rate but netbook sales fell off a cliff in January and shrank again in April — collateral damage, according to Morgan Stanley's Katy Huberty, from the January introduction and April launch of the iPad. In support of Huberty's theory, she offers a Morgan Stanley/Alphawise survey conducted in March which found that 44% of US consumers who were planning to buy an iPad said they were buying it instead of a netbook or notebook computer. In related news, Apple announced that it sold its one millionth iPad last week, just 28 days after its introduction on April 3. 'One million iPads in 28 days — that's less than half of the 74 days it took to achieve this milestone with iPhone,' says Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. 'Demand continues to exceed supply and we're working hard to get this magical product into the hands of even more customers.'"

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Whatever it taks! (4, Funny)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112586)

says Steve Jobs, Apple's CEO. 'Demand continues to exceed supply and we're working hard to get this magical product into the hands of even more customers.' Steve -- have you tried using Pixie Dust?

After a month of daily use... (4, Interesting)

crumbz (41803) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112588)

...I find the iPad to be a perfect web surfing device. Great for e-mail and watching video. I am actually considering selling my Macbook Pro, as it is starting to get dusty. That said, I wouldn't want to write a novel on it.

Re:After a month of daily use... (3, Insightful)

Peach Rings (1782482) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112636)

Why on earth would you want to use an iPad to browse the internet if you have a laptop? Tiny screen, no Flash support, no keyboard... when did it become hip to use crippled devices?

Re:After a month of daily use... (4, Insightful)

fruitbane (454488) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112724)

When un-crippled devices proved to complex to use and maintain. The average person doesn't actually need a full-on PC for most tasks. The said, the iPad is damn expensive for a limited computing appliance.

Re:After a month of daily use... (1)

bhartman34 (886109) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112802)

The said, the iPad is damn expensive for a limited computing appliance.

I think that's the problem. I understand the cool factor, but even a netbook is so much more functional than an iPad that I can't really see the justification of going with an iPad over a netbook, unless you're someone who absolutely, positively despises keyboards and knows you'll only use it for web browsing, iPhone-type games, and e-books. It's unbelievable to me that the iPad could overwhelm netbook sales with that kind of demographic.

Re:After a month of daily use... (3, Interesting)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112966)

I think that's the problem. I understand the cool factor, but even a netbook is so much more functional than an iPad that I can't really see the justification of going with an iPad over a netbook, unless you're someone who absolutely, positively despises keyboards and knows you'll only use it for web browsing, iPhone-type games, and e-books.

There are a few use cases that aren't immediately obvious for a large handheld device with a very high-grade touchscreen. For instance, it makes an unbelievably nice VNC client.

Re:After a month of daily use... (1, Insightful)

Pojut (1027544) | more than 4 years ago | (#32113022)

Agreed. If you are a hardcore gamer or programmer, then yes tweaking your system to its fullest can be a complicated affair. If you are just a normal user, then the average consumer computer (i.e. one that runs OSX or Windows 7) is extremely simple. If all you do is websurfing, it doesn't take long to learn how to push the power button, wait for it to boot up, and click on the icon for your internet browser.

The fact that people find computers sooo complicated and need pictures that look like they were drawn for pre-schoolers makes me fear for society. Have we as a culture really become that goddamn stupid? Do we really need our computers to function like digital picture books?

Oh noes, this one has words longer than four letters! Oh, and what the hell is this rectangular thing with the alphabet and a numbers on it? And what is this crazy contraption that slides around?

Seriously. 20 years ago, something like the iPad being a great idea to simplify computing would have been believable. Now? It's just fucking pathetic.

Re:After a month of daily use... (5, Insightful)

Man On Pink Corner (1089867) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112728)

Why on earth would you want to use an iPad to browse the internet if you have a laptop? Tiny screen, no Flash support, no keyboard... when did it become hip to use crippled devices?

Try it.

Re:After a month of daily use... (5, Funny)

Yamata no Orochi (1626135) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112772)

Try it.

Pay for it for me.

Re:After a month of daily use... (3, Interesting)

fredmosby (545378) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112956)

I got an iPad earlier this week and I haven't used my laptop since. A laptop can do more, but the iPad does everything I need, and it's much easier to use. Actually the screen size isn't a problem because I tend to have the screen closer to my face than a laptop.

Re:After a month of daily use... (-1, Troll)

Yamata no Orochi (1626135) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112650)

Let me go ahead and drop eight hundred bucks on a web-surfing and e-mail viewing device.

What in the hell.

Re:After a month of daily use... (3, Interesting)

shawn(at)fsu (447153) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112770)

Hmmm a ~$250 netbook with an OS that allows the installation of arbitrary non approved applications and the ability to install other OSs... Or a $500+ for a closed OS with no ability to install unapproved arbitrary apps.

Two comments
1) Dear Apple please save me from your followers
2) This is the same phenomenon as Ed Hardy popularity

Typed on my netbook, while listening to Pandora and running an office app to type notes for a final

Re:After a month of daily use... (5, Insightful)

insertwackynamehere (891357) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112960)

So what you are saying is that the ipad is worthless in your opinion, which is more relevant than the fact the ipad is doing very well. Slashdot hated the ipad but all of their misguided and out of touch opinions couldn't change the fact that the ipad is a good product from the standpoint of the manufacturer and the consumers who purchase it.

Re:After a month of daily use... (1)

yankeessuck (644423) | more than 4 years ago | (#32113008)

This whole argument is severely weakened if the approved applications meet all or most of one's needs. Then we're not talking about limitations but what kind of utility one gets for the extra $250.

Re:After a month of daily use... (2, Funny)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112656)

I find the iPad makes a great cutting board. Great for dicing tomatoes and, uh... apples! I am actually considering selling my Rock Maple cutting board, as it reeks of onions anyway. That said, I wouldn't want to do all my kitchen chores on it -- I tried chopping onions, and wound up accidentally downloading porn!

Re:After a month of daily use... (1)

Bearhouse (1034238) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112832)

Thanks; made me laugh.
Also made me thing of this recent article:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/10/05/05/1840258/Convert-a-SIM-To-a-MicroSIM-With-a-Meat-Cleaver?art_pos=24 [slashdot.org]

Re:After a month of daily use... (1)

Bearhouse (1034238) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112862)

Ahem. Sorry, did not make me 'thing', (wife does that). 'think'....

Re:After a month of daily use... (1)

MachDelta (704883) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112910)

The real question is... will it blend?

Re:After a month of daily use... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32112972)

The real question is... will it blend?

Yes it will.... After you fold it in half. :-)

Re:After a month of daily use... (2, Informative)

thepike (1781582) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112976)

Yes! [youtube.com]

But only after you break it in half.

Re:After a month of daily use... (1)

Conspiracy_Of_Doves (236787) | more than 4 years ago | (#32113006)

Yes [blendtec.com]

Re:After a month of daily use... (4, Funny)

atarione (601740) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112710)

"That said, I wouldn't want to write a novel on it."

so yeah it is perfect if you never have to do any actual work =p

oh #$%* now i'm kinda jealous of your never having to work lifestyle..... DAMN IT....

sigh...

Re:After a month of daily use... (1)

feepness (543479) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112734)

Friend of mine bought an iPad. It's already collecting dust according to him.

Re:After a month of daily use... (0, Flamebait)

insertwackynamehere (891357) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112992)

Cool story, bro. Any more anecdotal evidence you want to throw my way in a sulking and pathetic attempt to dismiss the ipads success?

Re:After a month of daily use... (1)

safetyinnumbers (1770570) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112866)

...I find the iPad to be a perfect web surfing device. Great for e-mail and watching video. I am actually considering selling my Macbook Pro, as it is starting to get dusty. That said, I wouldn't want to write a novel on it.

Well I wouldn't want to write much on a netbook keyboard either, but I don't really see them as competing. I'm sure the iPad is great as a pick-up-and-go browser and so on (I use my iPod Touch all the time, it's easier and faster than using a PC), but if I had to take one device away on a road trip it would be a netbook. I've stayed at motels where the wireless was poor but there was ethernet provided too, for instance. I can use it to back up camera memory cards. And a real keyboard is useful for emails.

I suspect that if the world had only ever had iPad-style tablet PCs and Apple invented the netbook, people would be praising the brilliant design that cleverly combined the keyboard with a tilting stand, which also protected the screen when not in use.

Re:After a month of daily use... (5, Funny)

Fnkmaster (89084) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112870)

That does sound awesome - sit around all day, surf the web, read email, and watch video. If you can figure out how I can support my lifestyle on that, I am totally down to replace my Macbook with an iPad too.

Re:After a month of daily use... (2, Insightful)

Antiocheian (859870) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112922)

It's a great device for such computing requirements.

I wish your Macbook Pro a more demanding owner.

It's not the iPad (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32112596)

Netbooks just suck. I have a nice one (HP2140) and I hate using it.

Re:It's not the iPad (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#32113024)

Netbooks just suck. I have a nice one (HP2140) and I hate using it.

I have three netbooks, and I like using two of them. Amusingly one is from Gateway, but I believe it's also an Everex and maybe someone else sells it too. The other is from Asus. I've had a couple HP notebooks, they were very expensive, and very lame. I wouldn't touch an HP netbook with oven mitts wrapped in condoms.

Not a fan of flashless tablets. (1)

Adult film producer (866485) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112604)

Every decent guy needs a one-handed tablet they can bring to bed with themselves.

Re:Not a fan of flashless tablets. (2, Funny)

ciaohound (118419) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112880)

Decent? One-handed... in bed... with themselves? Adult film producer, you are just cramming too much innuendo into one slashdot post.

hyperbole much? (5, Insightful)

thomasdz (178114) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112608)

Geesh... "destroyed"? "fell off a cliff"?
no bias in this article

Re:hyperbole much? (2, Funny)

Locke2005 (849178) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112698)

My netbook fell off a cliff and really was destroyed, you insensitive clod!

Re:hyperbole much? (3, Funny)

Chris Burke (6130) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112892)

My netbook fell off a cliff and really was destroyed, you insensitive clod!

And the iPad has no alibi, I notice. Hmmm...

Re:hyperbole much? (1, Insightful)

Scyth3 (988321) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112704)

It's hard-hitting Glenn Beck-style news. 100% "truth".

Re:hyperbole much? (5, Insightful)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112914)

*We report* on how the awesome new Ipad is decimating the very existence of the Netbook, then defecating on its already stinking corpse. *You Decide* how long it will take you to open your eyes to the best computing device on earth, and then open your checkbook to the tune of 800 bucks!

Fair.And.Balanced.

Hey, look out! There's something behind you!

Idiot tax (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32112610)

Lots of people buy the Sun/Mirror newspapers in the UK or watch Fox News in the USA. So some people decide they want an iPad too, big deal.

Re:Idiot tax (3, Funny)

insertwackynamehere (891357) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112824)

Ah, the "I was wrong but I'm actually still right" tactic. An interesting gambit.

Re:Idiot tax (1)

wjousts (1529427) | more than 4 years ago | (#32113014)

Nobody ever lost money by betting on the stupidity of the general public.

I bought my 2nd netbook just a week ago (3, Insightful)

TheGratefulNet (143330) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112622)

in fact, a dell mini10v JUST so that I could run hackintosh sw on it. 100% compat (once you have a mac to sysgen your new mac, that is).

it has a keyboard. it can run any os. I can upgrade things. it has ports!

do I want an ipad? no. not at the current price, features and, well, its almost all that is WRONG with apple these days.

only apple guys are buying the ipad. that's still a very tiny minority. netbooks are still firmly in the sales channels and will be even though apple tries to change our view of reality with their paid-for ads and fake grass-roots posts.

a walled garden can never replace a notebook. we all know that!

Re:I bought my 2nd netbook just a week ago (1)

insertwackynamehere (891357) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112782)

I like reading steadfast denial expressed in such an obtuse and spergy way that poster actually truly believes that his opinions and life choices trump the realities expressed in TFA. It's really adorable :3

Re:I bought my 2nd netbook just a week ago (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32113018)

Has anyone actually SEEN an Ipad yet? I certainly haven't. But then again I live in Canada.

Re:I bought my 2nd netbook just a week ago (1)

jeffmeden (135043) | more than 4 years ago | (#32113012)

in fact, a dell mini10v JUST so that I could run hackintosh sw on it. 100% compat (once you have a mac to sysgen your new mac, that is).

it has a keyboard. it can run any os. I can upgrade things. it has ports!

do I want an ipad? no. not at the current price, features and, well, its almost all that is WRONG with apple these days.

only apple guys are buying the ipad. that's still a very tiny minority. netbooks are still firmly in the sales channels and will be even though apple tries to change our view of reality with their paid-for ads and fake grass-roots posts.

a walled garden can never replace a notebook. we all know that!

So, you detest the Apple experience, that you just bought a netbook to recreate? Um you might want to see a therapist.

Another explanation (5, Insightful)

Yossarian45793 (617611) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112624)

Or maybe netbook sales are cratering because instead of delivering quality models with high performance and low power packed into a lightweight enclosure, companies like Dell have axed all but the most profitable models, and replaced SSDs with magnetic disks and raised prices to the maximum they can squeeze out of customers. Netbook selection is terrible now compared to what it was a year ago. Last year there were many models and there was a price war, now there are a few models and they're just crappy low-end notebooks.

Re:Another explanation (1)

puto (533470) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112674)

Really, I just bought a dell Vosotro Laptop with a Mini thrown in. Total cost with shipping for both items was 600 bucks.

Re:Another explanation (1)

fruitbane (454488) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112752)

Notice, too, that your OS options are ancient XP Home or the horrible under-performer Windows 7 Starter. Neither are a good OS for a netbook. What is needed is for the netbook to try to be more, or perhaps less, than a full notebook. Notice also how much extra a tablet/touch screen model adds to the price.

there was a price war, now there are a few models (1)

wiredog (43288) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112876)

Hmmm. I wonder if there's some connection there?

Predicted last year (4, Informative)

ThrowAwaySociety (1351793) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112940)

Or maybe netbook sales are cratering because instead of delivering quality models with high performance and low power packed into a lightweight enclosure, companies like Dell have axed all but the most profitable models, and replaced SSDs with magnetic disks and raised prices to the maximum they can squeeze out of customers. Netbook selection is terrible now compared to what it was a year ago. Last year there were many models and there was a price war, now there are a few models and they're just crappy low-end notebooks.

Indeed, at least one study in late 2009 predicted that Netbooks would fall off of their own accord
http://www.internetnews.com/stats/article.php/3855261/Netbook-Sales-to-Cool-Off-in-2010.htm [internetnews.com]

That was a month before the iPad was announced.

Re:Another explanation (1)

bkpark (1253468) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112958)

Oh, I don't know. Asus's Eee line (the original netbook, unless you count OLPC whose design has been around for a while before Eee came out) is still designed and sold along the same line: cheap ($350 for most models), small, and long battery life. Given that this is, what, third year since first Eee came out, perhaps you can blame lack of innovation for drop in netbook sales, but I wouldn't blame manufacturers of losing their ways.

I personally blame U.S. climbing out of recession. Someone I personally know was looking for a small laptop recently and instead of a cheap netbook, he decided on a full-fledged notebook (same size, but with dual-core processors and more RAM, I think). But maybe the actual data doesn't support this hunch ... (esp. if notebook sales are more or less the same).

welp. (5, Funny)

hamburger lady (218108) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112632)

the /. "it'll never sell, it's just a giant itouch' crowd really knocked this one outta the park.

what can i say? when you're right 48 of the time, you're wrong 52 percent of the time.

Re:welp. (1)

Zironic (1112127) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112700)

Has anyone figured out what it's good for yet?

Re:welp. (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112798)

Has anyone figured out what it's good for yet?

Apple's profits?

Clearly, a lot of people want one -- so either they have no idea of what they'll use it for, or it fills a niche that nobody realized was there.

Re:welp. (1)

sunderland56 (621843) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112948)

Has anyone figured out what it's good for yet?

Apple's profits?

That has yet to be seen. Depending on the manufacturing cost of the iPad, it could be bad for profits.

Re:welp. (1)

hamburger lady (218108) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112820)

untold millions added to apple's bottom line, i figure.

Re:welp. (4, Informative)

Yamata no Orochi (1626135) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112718)

I think the /. crowd said something more along the lines of, "It's a piece of crap, but every yuppie retard will still buy one."

Seems a little more in-line with reality.

Re:welp. (4, Insightful)

DeadDecoy (877617) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112810)

Nah, most of the /. crowd is formed of IT admins, programmers, and engineers, whose environment is saturated with computers and probably do not need a device that has less functionality than the one they sit in front of all day long. For the basic end-user, it's a nifty device. You're just getting a biased opinion here.

Re:welp. (5, Funny)

Brett Buck (811747) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112860)

"It's a piece of crap, but every yuppie retard will still buy one."

  In other news, Slashdot posters also declared with authority that "dating supermodels is a real pain in the ass, they are too high-maintenance" and "being rich doesn't make you happy!"

Re:welp. (-1, Offtopic)

Yamata no Orochi (1626135) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112912)

-1, non sequitur

Re:welp. (0, Flamebait)

betterunixthanunix (980855) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112886)

You can count me out of that crowd. I am in the crowd that said, "This horribly locked down and restricted computer will probably sell extremely well because of Apple's amazing abilities to market products and the average consumers lack of information on technical matters."

What do you know, my prediction was spot on.

Re:welp. (1)

Bearhouse (1034238) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112928)

the /. "it'll never sell, it's just a giant itouch' crowd really knocked this one outta the park.

what can i say? when you're right 48 of the time, you're wrong 52 percent of the time.

Hell, that's better than average, right !? Oh wait...

"Magical" product? (5, Funny)

goldspider (445116) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112664)

Demand continues to exceed supply and we're working hard to get this magical product into the hands of even more customers.

I can't imagine why some people regard Apple as a cult...

Sigh (4, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32112672)

I think it has to do more with market saturation than the iPad. All of the Soccer Moms and folks who wanted the small portable cheap computer picked them up over last year and the holidays. These aren't people on a 3 year HW replacement cycle and don't care about power so they're not going to go out and jump for another machine.

Enough iPad sensationalism.

One million (5, Insightful)

Zerth (26112) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112678)

I'm going to feel just a little bit sad for the owners of those million iPads when they drop the price and kick out the next version in 6 months. They'll be outraged, but Jobs will just say "hey, at least it wasn't 2 months this time!"

Re:One million (1)

clifyt (11768) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112788)

Apple generally waits a year to introduce major revisions.

However, people toward the end of the year freak the hell out after they've done no research and end up buying something that is outdated....those in the first million? We know we are buying a first gen product...I sold my 1st Gen iPhone overseas after the 3GS came out and it paid for itself. At this point, I wish I had two iPads...one for around the house duties...cookbooks and otherwise, anything that people can just pick up and put down where ever...and another one just for me...

So in a year from now, I'll probably buy the next gen..if it makes sense to (I didn't buy the iPhone 3G because it didn't offer enough of an upgrade to care...the 3GS? yes...)

That problem is hardly unique to Apple... (2, Insightful)

sean.peters (568334) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112994)

Not particularly an iPad fan here, but still... every technology product has this issue. I think most people understand the tradeoff between having something now and having something slightly more whiz-bang later.

Re:One million (1)

MobyDisk (75490) | more than 4 years ago | (#32113020)

Yeah, 'cuz that doesn't happen with other computing devices.

Why do people buy an iPad? (3, Insightful)

v(*_*)vvvv (233078) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112682)

An iPad is a big iPod Touch. It's a toy. Fun for the whole family, and even geeks love them... but it is still a toy.

A Netbook is another name for a cheap laptop. You can do real work on a netbook, and by work I mean Microsoft Office and Quickbooks work.

So if people were buying netbooks just for fun, then maybe those who think they could have more fun with an iPad are opting for those instead, but it seems like the iPad is selling to a whole new audience that wouldn't have bought a Netbook to begin with like...

Apple users who wanted a Netbook (Apple only has expensive laptops)

Re:Why do people buy an iPad? (2, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32112744)

This may come as a shock to you but there are millions of people who don't need to do "real work" with an electronic device. Not everyone compiles Linux kernels, uses accounting software an needs to write the great American novel on a portable tablet. You want to do that shit, sit down on a chair in from a computer and go to it.

Networks are garbage and that's why when given a choice, the iPad has a very large market it can tap into.

Re:Why do people buy an iPad? (1)

Yamata no Orochi (1626135) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112806)

What do you have against networks?

That doesn't make any sense. (5, Insightful)

mosb1000 (710161) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112794)

People buy toys. . .

As someone WITH an iPad, I beg to differ... (5, Insightful)

nweaver (113078) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112852)

An iPad is really a "new class" of device: a "content access" tool rather than a "content creation" tool. A notebook is really good for creating stuff. But for viewing stuff, its actually decidedly second-class.

And netbooks are just small notebooks: with all the limitations that a notebook has.

An iPad is different: it actually sucks for creating content for the most part: the keyboard just is a steaming pile of "not good" compared with even the keyboard on the XO laptop. But for data access it is brilliant: Light weight, long lived, easy to use.

And with the app ecology, apps are just more "data to access", and its really good at that. I'd expect to see, eg, a lot of interesting industrial/business applications as well start to develop. Its not just a "for fun" device really, its just a reflection that there are different roles for devices, and apple built a specialist-in-a-different direction device.

Re:As someone WITH an iPad, I beg to differ... (1)

Azureflare (645778) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112964)

I beg to differ, the keyboard is quite usable. The only problem I consistently have is that whenever I try to hit the spacebar it hits the b key. Just takes a little retraining. I can almost type on it without looking down at the keyboard after a couple weeks of inconsistent usage.

Re:Why do people buy an iPad? (1)

Azureflare (645778) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112934)

Is a toy something you use to read books? Do you watch movies on a toy, update facebook on a toy, write on a toy? (And yes it's great for writing especially right after you wake up and you want to write down this great idea you had in your sleep).

If that's all true then yes, iPad is a toy. But in my experience (actually owning one), it is a netbook replacement.

If I need to do development (which I do) I use my company laptop or my iMac. (Clearly I have a thing for big displays.)

Re:Why do people buy an iPad? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32112946)

Each time Apple create a new product, some people say: "It's a toy". Graphical user interface with mouse was a toy, QuickTime was a toy, phone with touch screen was a toy and now and now, iPad is a toy. I think that simple and "ludic" devices will sell more and more in the future...

Re:Why do people buy an iPad? (4, Insightful)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112974)

You can do real work on a netbook, and by work I mean Microsoft Office and Quickbooks work.

You know, I think you've basically just proved Apple's marketing campaign for the last several years.

Usually the PC is saying they can do spreadsheets and other similar boring business type tasks. The Mac is more concerned about doing interesting things like managing photos and playing music and having a life.

To a lot of people, Microsoft Office and Quickbooks aren't things they want to do. Apple seems to have made a market about selling people devices which do fun things. And, yes, that likely is a whole new audience.

The fact they've sold a million in this timeframe means it's a big audience. I don't know what I'd do with one, but what I've seen of them makes me secretly want one -- I won't be buying one, but I do covet them.

Not surprising (5, Interesting)

TheRaven64 (641858) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112686)

NetBooks were always strange devices. Marginally more portable than a laptop (although not portable enough to fit in a pocket), and a lot less powerful. Their only real advantage was their cost. They were very cheap, but since the original EeeeeeeeeeeeeePC they've gradually crept up in price and now they're just too expensive for what they are.

The iPad, in contrast, is not just a cheap laptop. It fills a distinctly different need to a laptop. I've not entirely worked out what that need is - it seems to target a market that doesn't contain me - but it's clearly not the same set of uses as a laptop.

The iPad isn't killing Netbooks, they're doing that all by themselves. The iPad is just giving people who might have bought one and never used it after the first couple of months something different to waste their money on.

Re:Not surprising (1)

fruitbane (454488) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112812)

With proper work, though, the modern netbook could easily morph into the next all-purpose tablet device. A touch-screen optimized interface on top of a slimmed OS and a few minor hardware design changes are all that are really needed to make a netbook into a powerful iPad competitor. Sadly, the OS/software is the real hangup.

Re:Not surprising (3, Interesting)

LWATCDR (28044) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112968)

The iPad has a better screen than most netbooks and a longer battery life.
I am still waiting for a smartbook. I don't need windows on a mobile device. I have a notebook if I need windows.
I can do everything I want on a mobile device just fine with Linux on an ARM.
I would like Flash for it until Firefox decides to support H.264 but other than that I really could do everything on Ubuntu running on say a TegraII with a nice screen.

Re:Not surprising (4, Insightful)

Animats (122034) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112980)

They were very cheap, but since the original EeeeeeeeeeeeeePC they've gradually crept up in price and now they're just too expensive for what they are.

I know. There should be vast numbers of $200 netbooks, and there aren't. The PC industry was terrified of that price drop, and with Microsoft's help, managed to fight it off.

I have several of the original EeePC machines. Their Linux has a built-in self-destruct feature. Their "union file system" loses inodes over time. As a test, I have one plugged in and completely idle; it loses about 1% of its inodes per day. When all the inodes are gone, the machine stops working. There is a workaround for this [eeeuser.com] , which must be applied every 90 days of power-on time, or sooner if you actually use the machine. The vendor-recommended procedure, though, is to reinitialize the machine to the factory-empty state, losing all user files.

And people wonder why Linux hasn't succeeded on the desktop.

netbooks just aren't that useful for the avg dude (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32112688)

I'm saying they two are only slightly related. Many people bought netbooks last year as they were the must have item. But slow performance and the limited usability for "Joe Sixpack" might have caught up with the market.
 

an Apple story a day keeps the nerd rage aflame (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32112708)

is this where I come to complain about there being to many goddamned Apple stories on /. ?!

How will Slashdotters cope with being wrong? (-1, Troll)

insertwackynamehere (891357) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112736)

Denial, anecdotal evidence, name calling and judgement, no doubt. Followed by the soft pitter patter of their tears on the pillow they also use as a masturbation aid. Oh look, it has already begin!

Re:How will Slashdotters cope with being wrong? (1)

camperdave (969942) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112842)

Slashdotters are never wrong... the universe is.

Re:How will Slashdotters cope with being wrong? (1)

Yamata no Orochi (1626135) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112848)

Being wrong about what? They have the exact same specs and operate in exactly the same way they were projected when everyone decided they were crap.

You can sell a billion turds and they're still turds.

Not surprising (4, Insightful)

ErichTheRed (39327) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112746)

For the vast majority of end users, especially those who don't care what's running their devices, the iPad is a good enough substitute for a full laptop PC. The screen is big enough to do serious browsing (unless you use Flash...) and it doubles as a book reader/media player. The major problems I've always had with netbooks is the desktop OS (Linux or Windows) crammed onto a too-small screen, the speed and the tiny keyboards. I've tried to like them - I really have. But that form factor really stinks if you have bad eyes and big fingers.

(And no, I don't own an iPad. I'm the old fogey in the corner with a 14" laptop.)

Even with the lack of Flash,a keyboard and a mainstream OS, the iPad as a netbook replacement is not totally out to lunch. There are some situations where netbooks work well, usually they involve field workers in non-harsh environments who have to run full desktop apps but want a 2 pound laptop instead of a 5 pound one.

Inaccurate summary (5, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32112750)

Growth in netbook sales is slowed down to "only" 6% YOY as of April. This means that they're just as strong as last year, just not going up at an insane exponential rate which is, by definition unsustainable for many generations. They are not *cratering* as the summary implies.

Fingerprints on the screen (1)

birukun (145245) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112760)

I can't get past the fingerprints all over the screen. Who can enjoy a movie/web experience having to look past all the smudges?

I will keep my Netbook, thank you.

Re:Fingerprints on the screen (1)

gregthebunny (1502041) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112924)

It's probably my OCD talking, but this has always been my problem with touch-screen devices as a whole.

Tablets and Netbooks are Apple(s) and Oranges (1)

ProppaT (557551) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112766)

Oh, I'd take an iPad over a netbook anyday. That's not a hard task as I have want for a netbook. I also have zero want for an iPad, not because it's a bad product but because I have zero want to play in Steve Jobs playground with quarter slots on all the preapproved swings and slides. I really hope someone can manage to make a slider tablet where the keyboard slides out and configures the tablet into netbook factor, for when that 3rd mocha breve inspires you to pound out Shakespeare. Preferably in WebOS or Android flavors. They might not be as sweet, but they won't give you diabetes.

iPad can't do everything my laptop can (4, Insightful)

rjamestaylor (117847) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112780)

While it's true iPad cannot doesn't allow me to do everything my laptop does, I find that for most of the things I do with a laptop the iPad excels. Especially consuming content. Creating content is getting better (I'm more used to the keyboard and use an external BT keyboard for long writing sessions), iSSH makes it bearable to manage my servers remotely (the only servers I use anymore are "remote"), and when off work the iPad is a fantastic movie and gaming platform.

So, I am finding myself using my iPad more and my laptop less. (Ironically, I'm writing this from my MacBookPro :)

Sheer Madness (4, Insightful)

eldavojohn (898314) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112800)

'One million iPads in 28 days -- that's less than half of the 74 days it took to achieve this milestone with iPhone,'

Isn't it crazy how fast people will belly up to throw cash at you when you're not also forcing them into a two year cellphone plan with AT&T with high monthly payments? I know you need a service plan to use the iPad's 3G but there's also a model with no 3G. I wonder what the breakdown of that million sales looks like (yes, I know the 3G just came out). I'd wager the faster adoption of the iPad is mostly due to the consumer's ability to make their own choices. Consumer options are a good thing. I know that's not the way Jobs likes to do things but that's just my analysis.

Re:Sheer Madness (1)

fruitbane (454488) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112850)

So long as you don't give consumers too many choices. Then they often become incapable of distinguishing real value as it is often obscured by nearly identical, yet somehow different, options.

Re:Sheer Madness (3, Interesting)

CrackedButter (646746) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112996)

Hence the ipod touch?

i'm not sure it is the ipad (1)

atarione (601740) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112816)

i like netbooks my little aspire one has traveled thousands of miles with me and have been nice to have
the problem is it is two years old and for the most part a brand new netbook wouldn't necessarily be compellingly better than my 2yr old A110.

I'd have to think that a big part of the sales drop is that all the people that see the benefit of a little netbook have one now and also don't have any hugely compelling reason to buy a shinny new one to replace the one they have.

641 (5, Insightful)

random string of num (1676550) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112834)

641% wow man.. thats a lot of growth, if they could keep that up the number of netbooks in the market doubles roughly every month, it would only take just under 3 years for the entire population of the world to have a net-book (starting with 1 net-book at the 1st month) isn't it more likely that the net book market has saturated itself. I find it hard to understand how people can compare these two different product types, these tablets don't even have keyboards, and cost at least 2wice as much. enough already with this apple out to conquer the world hogwash don't believe the hype

Or people realize netbooks are retarded (5, Insightful)

BitZtream (692029) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112884)

Its also entirely possible that people have begun to realize that netbooks are just annoying.

Too small for long term use, too large for stuffing in your pocket or a small purse, battery life no better than my MBP for the same tasks and utterly incapable of doing the same things. Not useful as a phone.

Netbooks were a cute fad but lets face it, they aren't really useful to most people and it took people a little bit to realize it.

So now that the product is proven (1)

drinkypoo (153816) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112906)

Who out there has got a dual core tegra tablet for $600 or less? Anyone? Bueller? How about one of those ARM tablets for $100? Hello? *taptap* Is this thing on? Something I can buy with US currency and have shipped to the continental US, please.

Hype-Cycle (4, Interesting)

prefec2 (875483) | more than 4 years ago | (#32112918)

First there was no such device as a netbook. Then the geeks saw the OLPC and then they ran around, screaming "I want one of these!!!!" After some screaming, Asus thought it might be nice to sell some of these devices to geeks. Hey its about money. And then more people saw that netbooks are nice devices so they bought one. As the demand for netbooks was high the sales jumped up (because the industry suddenly provided a portable product which was very much needed by many people). Now most of those people who want a netbook have a netbook and so the sales are going back. Also there was/is a financial crisis going on. And while the crisis more or less hit the public in the US very quickly it took some time to have an affect countries with "social backup systems".

So in short: It is not a falling of a cliff it is just the end of a peak. And yes, as already mentioned, there are no really cheap netbooks anymore.

In related news... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#32112932)

In related news...

The phenomenon in our universe known as "time" is causing an explosion of iPad sales. Scientists found that, as time increases from the release of the iPad, more iPads are sold. Therefore, time is causing iPad sales to explode. Steve Jobs couldn't be contacted for comment, however his secretary is on record as saying "Time is a pretty cool dude. It increases our sales and isn't afraid of anything!"

Arrgh (1)

geekoid (135745) | more than 4 years ago | (#32113000)

Magic? When did we go from cool technology to magic?

Everyone is going to be disappointed in a year when the market is full of better devices.

like this one:
http://wepad.mobi/en [wepad.mobi]

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