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Apple Balks, Finally Relents, At Possible User Queries of Dictionary App

timothy posted more than 4 years ago | from the my-dictionary-doesn't-even-list-the-****ing-word dept.

Censorship 259

Geoffrey.landis writes with a snippet from CNET reporting another example of offputting treatment at Apple's App Store: "'In this case, it's a dictionary app called Ninjawords (so called because ninjas are 'smart, accurate, and really fast') that was rejected three times over the course of two months, mostly because 'objectionable' words could be looked up and found in the dictionary's search function, Gruber reported.' PCWorld also reports the story." Note that the app was eventually approved, but only after a few go-rounds and changes.

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Great... (5, Insightful)

hezekiah957 (1219288) | more than 4 years ago | (#28963997)

So now I'll just have to Safari to look up the meanings of dirty words.

Good to see (3, Funny)

santax (1541065) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964023)

some people still think about the children.

Re:Good to see (4, Insightful)

The Archon V2.0 (782634) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964081)

some people still think about the children.

Absolutely. Don't want a kid hearing anything objectionable! In the interests of reaching this wonderful, Utopian, and completely achievable goal, I suggest we also ban children from all other sources of possible profanity, such as:
using the Internet,
playing video games,
watching TV,
going outside,
being around strangers,
being around their parents and other relatives, and
being around all other children, those vile little deviants.

Re:Good to see (3, Insightful)

jimshatt (1002452) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964179)

Also, remove 'objectionable' body parts...

Re:Good to see (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964671)

Also, remove 'objectionable' body parts...

Hey I like my objectionable body parts, you insensitive clod!

Re:Good to see (5, Insightful)

iamhigh (1252742) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964463)

Exactly.... I want my child to see as much of the world as possible. Look at the starving kids in Africa, look how stupid that guy looks when yelling profanities (and watch how I better handle the situation), look at the "gross" and "objectionable". And read every damn book that has ever been banned.

The only way to raise a properly educated, informed, and morally "good" kid is to introduce them to the horrors of the world and let them decide what actions and materials are best for their life. If they have never seen the bad, they cannot appreciate the good.

Re:Good to see (5, Insightful)

shutdown -p now (807394) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964947)

Exactly.... I want my child to see as much of the world as possible. Look at the starving kids in Africa, look how stupid that guy looks when yelling profanities (and watch how I better handle the situation), look at the "gross" and "objectionable". And read every damn book that has ever been banned.

That's all good, but... goatse?

Re:Good to see (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964367)

Not good to see. If a child is looking up an "objectionable" word in a dictionary it means they already know of the word as it is.

At least they will be able to know it's true definition which could be better than how they're using it anyhow. And if it weren't for "objectionable" words, some children wouldn't even learn how to use a dictionary.

Anyone care? (4, Insightful)

sakdoctor (1087155) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964027)

Does anyone actually care about these apple app stories?

Users and devs both know what their getting into, when they jumped on apples' locked down platform.
Everything that followed was inevitable.

Re:Anyone care? (2, Insightful)

Gizzmonic (412910) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964111)

This is a pattern. A very boring pattern. I prefer the Penrose pattern stamped into a square of Quilted Northern.

Re:Anyone care? (0, Offtopic)

BuckaBooBob (635108) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964207)

Thats just crazy... does that mean you can't download any movies from the app store that have any nudity in them?

Wellll, (4, Insightful)

Runaway1956 (1322357) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964775)

If Apple were to get away with censorship, and no one complained, who might follow Apple's example? Maybe the Bing-a-lings who run Microsoft? And, if no one objects to MS censoring what MS customers can see on the net, then who is next?

Yeah, I know, lots of people don't buy the slippery slope arguments. Buy it or not, give it some thought.

The developers who are fighting Apple on this are doing us all a service, believe it or not.

Re:Wellll, (0, Troll)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964865)

What is Apple censoring on the net exactly ? Apple is choosing what goes and doesn't go into the App Store, a private entity under their control. They haven't censored anything on the Internet yet. This guy is free to register ninjawords.com and put up his dictionary as a web application and it will show up on Safari on the iPhone without any kind of censorship.

Also, Microsoft doesn't play by the same rules Apple does, so not only is your argument is a slipery slope, it's also a strawman. Monopolies have to abide by the rules of anti-trust laws. Apple doesn't.

Re:Anyone care? (4, Insightful)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964821)

Developers should indeed know better, but I think a lot of people don't know what they're getting into. It's only through publicising stories like this that people will realise and go elsewhere.

This is a very worrying issue - whilst Apple are a niche player, imagine if they did end up becoming a monopoly on mobile platforms? Mobile computing is going to become ubiquitous in the next few years, and I'm very worried at any possibility of it being locked down and controlled by a single company, who could arbitrary decide what applications are allowed, or dictate whatever changes or censorship it liked. This sort of thing can't have enough publicity, just to minimise the risk of this happening. People need to support the many open alternatives whilst there's still a market.

The worrying thing is that it's on a traditionally anti-censorship site like Slashdot that support for the Iphone seems to be strongest.

Re:Anyone care? (2, Interesting)

PPalmgren (1009823) | more than 4 years ago | (#28965075)

The problem is the users DONT know what they are getting into, only people like us do, and the the devs follow the users because they have to follow the green. Joe sixpack has no idea about this stuff. These articles are attempting to reach out to major news outlets, and its working. Just today I saw a snippet about Apple blocking Google Voice on CNN. Apple's draconian lockdown policy has limited their market saturation before, and its starting to again.

What is the solution ? (5, Insightful)

Tsiangkun (746511) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964037)

Is the solution to censor the applications to which adults have access, or is the solution for parents not to give expensive iPhones to their immature children ?

Re:What is the solution ? (3, Insightful)

santax (1541065) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964061)

To be honest, I think apple's core business (with the iphone and ipod) is primarly targeted at childeren, teens and young adults... Allthough I fully agree with you, I don't think this going to happen.

Re:What is the solution ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964123)

Maybe allow the parents to set the phone to only allow age-appropriate apps? It can be done on televisions, cable boxes, DVD players and game consoles around the country, why not the iPhone?

On the other hand, if people know the situation going in, they deserve what they get when they decide to buy into it anyway (or develop for it...)

Re:What is the solution ? (2, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964173)

the iPhone **has** parental controls for applications, Apple is just playing nanny for the parents that don't care to use the tools available to assist with their parenting.

Re:What is the solution ? (2, Insightful)

Jeremy Erwin (2054) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964425)

The only possible justification for parental controls is give the easily offended an outlet for the ridiculous demands they make on the rest of society. Don't like something? Censor it yourself.

Parental Controls in addition to baseline level of bowdlerism is just absurd.

Re:What is the solution ? (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964857)

Censorship - it Just Works, Out Of The Box!

I'm not a fan of the Iphone, but I've got to admit, they're way ahead on this one.

Re:What is the solution ? (1)

Symbha (679466) | more than 4 years ago | (#28965129)

MOST people, don't really know the situation going in. All they see are pretty picture on their telivision, with some cool song that they probably haven't heard before, but love... and fancy things their phones can do because of the appstore. MOST people don't realize the anticompetitve stuff, and the the risk you assume as a developer to work with them. MOST people don't realize there is no refund mechanism for any kind of a warranty, whether that's due to apple or the developer. For most people, it's just a fancy phone, that connects to their itunes.

Re:What is the solution ? (2, Insightful)

amplt1337 (707922) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964137)

...and does anybody think these kids don't already know all the dirty words anyway?

Re:What is the solution ? (1)

funkatron (912521) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964639)

...and does anybody think these kids don't already know all the dirty words anyway?

Most parents will go to extreme lengths to keep that delusion intact.

Re:What is the solution ? (1)

immakiku (777365) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964157)

Neither. This isn't the right problem to be solved. We're not going to ban dictionaries in schools, so why ban it on what should be a less restrictive environment?

Re:What is the solution ? (5, Insightful)

Hatta (162192) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964197)

The solution is to tell Apple to fuck the hell off.

Re:What is the solution ? (5, Funny)

mr_lizard13 (882373) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964841)

I don't understand what you mean.

I looked up the word 'fuck' but I can't find it in my iDictionary.

Re:What is the solution ? (2, Interesting)

Bemopolis (698691) | more than 4 years ago | (#28965199)

I know you're being funny and all, but you made me check. And indeed, 'fuck' shows up in the Dictionary app in Leopard. I guess they left it there in case developers needed to define that word between 'go' and 'yourself' on the iPhone app rejection letter.

Re:What is the solution ? (3, Insightful)

rolfwind (528248) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964243)

Maybe they should kick out the iPhones browser, since much more naughty things than words can be looked up.

Or maybe should realize that the people using their phones don't need any more handholding than the people who USED to use AOL for internet access. Just because Steve Jobs became a power within Disney doesn't mean the iPhone should be forcing the cute n cuddly Disney experience on its owners.

Re:What is the solution ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28965113)

Which reminds me, I really should get working on my "Complete collection of Wally Wood's art" app. What could possibly go wrong?

Re:What is the solution ? (1)

noidentity (188756) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964251)

I think we need to form a government task force that removes all dictionaries and medical texts from any homes and schools where children and immature adults are present.

Re:What is the solution ? (3, Informative)

tacarat (696339) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964429)

There are task forces underway to not only do that, but ensure every home has a large print bible with big pictures of a non-Jewish Jesus. They'll also take any footwear the females may have and ensure all stoves have clocks over them.

Re:What is the solution ? (3, Funny)

HTH NE1 (675604) | more than 4 years ago | (#28965051)

There are task forces underway to... ensure every home has a large print bible with big pictures of a non-Jewish Jesus.

How? With full-frontal non-circumcised nudity?

Re:What is the solution ? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964563)

The solution is to stop with the fucking censorship already. Seriously, what's the worst thing that could happen as a result of anyone cursing? Answer: Nothing. Absolutely would be different if everyone cursed whenever they felt like it. Even the children.

Maybe if everyone curses without a good reason, curse words get diluted in meaning and when you have something *really* bad happen, you can't express yourself. Suck it up! No language is perfectly able to express every emotion, and if there's a real need for strong language I'm sure someone will come up with new curses. Besides, that's an argument for not cursing unless you have a good reason, not an argument for not cursing because children might learn more of their language.

Relents? (5, Insightful)

jpmorgan (517966) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964077)

If you RTFA, it says the app wasn't approved until the 'objectionable' words were removed from the dictionary. And then it was slapped with a 17+. But I'm a charitable fellow, so I'll give Apple the benefit of the doubt and assume that the 17+ rating was a dadaist statement on literacy and education in 21st century America.

What is apple's rationale behind this behavior? (4, Interesting)

PhantomHarlock (189617) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964083)

Could someone please explain Apple's rationale for their extremely conservative (and stupid) position on keeping everything suitable for a 6 year old? Why not let everything in and have parental controls if they're so concerned? I mean you can surf porn sites with the built in safari browser, so they should allow all 'look up' type apps with that same rationale, or ban safari or censor its web access.

I'm surprised they haven't banned Brushes because you can draw naked ladies with it.

Well, in any case, my iPhone is still slated to be pounded into ground glass as soon as my contract is up. Pretty much had it with the thing.

Re:What is apple's rationale behind this behavior? (1)

mini me (132455) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964219)

Safari can be censored. Check the parental controls.

Re:What is apple's rationale behind this behavior? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964287)

You can also prevent installing apps with a certain rating, yet this 17+ rated app still had to meet standards that Apple won't hold itself to.

Re:What is apple's rationale behind this behavior? (1)

mr_lizard13 (882373) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964875)

I'm surprised they haven't banned Brushes because you can draw naked ladies with it.

I didn't know you could do that with it!

I just love these little easter eggs devs slip past apple's review staff.

Yet Another Apple Store Rejection Story (1)

Adrian Lopez (2615) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964117)

I don't know if I should be saddened by the fact that all these stories about Apple Store rejections mean more publicity for a company such as Apple (under the principle that no publicity is bad publicity), or be pleased by the fact that the danger of developing for a closed platform is being so widely exposed.

Just who do they think they are anyway? (4, Interesting)

kheldan (1460303) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964131)

Who appointed Apple to be the legal guardian and nanny of iPhone users? Are they going to block internet access to http://dictionary.com/ [dictionary.com] because you can look up words like "motherfucker" there too?

Re:Just who do they think they are anyway? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964265)

or block /. because I just read that word

Re:Just who do they think they are anyway? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964283)

They do it because they are overtly paranoid about some enraged moral guardian suing them over "offensive" content. It is apparently easier and cheaper to annoy the developers that have incentive to get their software published. If you want to blame something, blame the litigious atmosphere in modern USA.

Re:Just who do they think they are anyway? (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964881)

Yes, this is why every other platform also doesn't allow dictionaries without any naughty words. It must be the fear of litigation.

Re:Just who do they think they are anyway? (1)

lp60068 (727840) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964289)

They should apply a common sense standard - can you look up the word in the printed version of the dictionary? Then let it in. When I was a kid I looked dirty words in the dictionary. So what? Why do we continue to underestimate kids? In grade school we were using 4 letter words all the time and tried to come up with different combinations. lol - we never got the words from the dictionary, but from others using the words.

Re:Just who do they think they are anyway? (5, Insightful)

EvanED (569694) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964797)

Who appointed Apple to be the legal guardian and nanny of iPhone users?

To be fair, the iPhone users did.

Which is why I don't have an iPhone.

STOP IT (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964185)

STOP trying to talk common sense into Apple.

Let them reject tons of useful applications for stupid reasons such as a user actually being able to type "nigger" into a text box on a phone that they own.

It will only make Android a more attractive platform.
"Why yes, I do have a dictionary application. They don't have that on the iPhone? Hmm, too bad."

Prior restraint on applications is bad for the same reason that prior restraint on speech is bad. Freedom ain't free.

Text fields? (1)

K. S. Kyosuke (729550) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964193)

Do all text fields in iPhone have the functionality of not allowing the user to write "objectionable" words as well? Because, you know, what if somebody posted a comment like "I hate those iWhores!" on Slashdot. That would be real shame.

Re:Text fields? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964435)

Quite the opposite. Those words are in the iPhone's auto-correct dictionary.

Oddly, hypocrite is in there too.

If someone is looking up a "bad" word... (3, Insightful)

NotQuiteReal (608241) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964247)

If someone is looking up a word, don't they already know about it?

If it is a "bad" word, the dictionary ought to tell you, in addition to the definition, that it is not a polite word.

Even my paper dictionary has "fuck" in it. My kids know all the "bad" words, and they know when not to use them (when their mother is around.)

Does the iPhone prevent them from browsing urbandictionary.com?

Re:If someone is looking up a "bad" word... (1)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964665)

I think people saying things like "There's Safari on the iPhone" don't quite get the difference. Apple isn't responsible for all the web pages on the Internet even though they make a browser (as per your urbandictionary.com quip). However, what is sold in the App Store is directly under their responsibility. They get to decide what goes on there and what doesn't, and if you don't like, well you can just get the competition's phone. I don't see what's so wrong with them deciding what goes and doesn't go up on their own store. Do I get to decide what you put in your slashdot journal ?

Re:If someone is looking up a "bad" word... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964831)

Do I get to decide what you put in your slashdot journal ?

What's it worth to you?

Re:If someone is looking up a "bad" word... (3, Insightful)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964943)

You are missing the point - the big problem is that Iphone can only use software that is on the app store, therefore Apple's decisions on what's allowed on the store are equivalent to Apple deciding what apps are allowed on the platform, and that is the issue. No one cares about simply not being hosted on a store.

Now sure, Apple are still free to make a locked down platform if the like. Equally, people are free to criticise Apple for doing so. And yes, not buy their Iphone - and how will people know not to buy the Iphone? That's right, with stories like this.

No, you don't get to decide what goes in my journal. But if Slashdot decide to disallow naughty words - whilst that would be their "right" - people would clearly still have the right to criticise them over that decision. No one's claiming that Apple don't have a legal right - that's a straw man. Saying "But but, they have a right" could apply to most of the stories that make Slashdot (or the news in general). Most of the time, that's not the issue.

Re:If someone is looking up a "bad" word... (2, Interesting)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#28965037)

I guess I don't see it as a "BIG PROBLEM" (tm). It's their platform to begin with, they made it and decided what it would be. Their rules are made known when downloading the SDK and paying the 99$ fee. It would only be a "BIG PROBLEM" (tm) if they were the only game in town. Vote with your wallet.

As for complaining about it, sure you're free to complain. However, reading most of the comments here, it seems like people aren't actually complaining more than trying to insinuate that Apple is acting against some ethical or legal code.

Re:If someone is looking up a "bad" word... (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 4 years ago | (#28965157)

Their rules are made known when downloading the SDK and paying the 99$ fee.

Users have to download and SDK and pay a fee now?

It would only be a "BIG PROBLEM" (tm) if they were the only game in town. Vote with your wallet.

Yes, and this is the point I addressed with: "And yes, not buy their Iphone - and how will people know not to buy the Iphone? That's right, with stories like this."

Not everything is as black and white as being pigeon-holed into "BIG PROBLEM (tm)" and "NOT BIG PROBLEM (tm)". I could go to just about every story on Slashdot and say "But this isn't a BIG PROBLEM (tm)". What's the point?

However, reading most of the comments here, it seems like people aren't actually complaining more than trying to insinuate that Apple is acting against some ethical or legal code.

Okay, link to some.

Haha. (2, Funny)

FlyingSquidStudios (1031284) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964259)

That reminds me of when I was a kid and I would go to the library and look up "dirty" words in the dictionary. Learning that 'vagina' is in the dictionary is comedy gold to an 8-year-old...

And yet I still want one. (1)

Capt.DrumkenBum (1173011) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964269)

Even with all the stories about how this or that app has been banned by Apple's app store, I still want an iPhone. Ahhh, the power of It Just Works.

Quick (1)

oldhack (1037484) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964271)

Somebody submit a "soup" application, and have Apple reject it.

Re:Quick (1)

dissy (172727) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964505)

Somebody submit a "soup" application, and have Apple reject it.

If you don't mind me asking.. "Soup" application?

I tried googling but I can't tell which (if any) are for this context.

If you mean did not relent, then yes (5, Interesting)

mikesum (840054) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964277)

From TFA ,"The list of omitted words includes some which have utterly non-objectionable senses: ass, snatch, pussy, cock, and even screw." There is just so much crap involved with the app store, when the FTC come down on Apple it will be well deserved, unless they manage to bride their way out.

Re:If you mean did not relent, then yesOKAY WHO .. (4, Interesting)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964389)

The list of omitted words includes...

Alright, inquiring minds want to know just who at Apple looked up all these words to see that they were actually in this app in the first place? Who has that dirty little mind to look up all these naughty words -- and is still allowed to work at bright shining, purer than Ivory Soap Apple?

Re:If you mean did not relent, then yes (1)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964459)

What would the FTC do to Apple and why exactly ? Unless the iPhone interferes with other devices in the radio spectrum, I don't see what jurisdiction the FTC hold over Apple.

Re:If you mean did not relent, then yes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964669)

Either this is really subtle humor, or you're confusing the FTC and the FCC.

Re:If you mean did not relent, then yes (1)

deltharius (1451283) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964677)

Yeah, what on Earth would the Federal Trade Commission, a government agency responsible for consumer protection, ever have to do with Apple? And the FTC doesn't care about the radio spectrum, since that is the jurisdiction of the Federal Communications Commission, the FCC.

Re:If you mean did not relent, then yes (1)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964743)

Touche. However as I said in another post, I don't see what consumer protection has anything to do with Apple's control over what they sell. How are consumers harmed exactly by Apple censoring "Ninjawords" ?

Re:If you mean did not relent, then yes (1)

mftb (1522365) | more than 4 years ago | (#28965047)

By not being able to get the complete version of Ninjawords the developer had originally intended to sell?

Re:If you mean did not relent, then yes (1)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#28965139)

He's free to sell it for other platforms/through other stores not under Apple control.

Re:If you mean did not relent, then yes (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28965053)

You're thinking of the Federal Communications Commission (FCC). The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is concerned with consumer protection and anti-competitive business practices.

Hahah, charade you are (4, Insightful)

0xdeadbeef (28836) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964285)

Apple isn't just the new Microsoft. Apple is the new Mary Whitehouse and Thomas Bowdler.

Apple Is Like Any Other Corporation (1)

Nom du Keyboard (633989) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964303)

Apple is just like any other corporation. Wow, who saw that coming?

I, for one, wish that the fanbois would just shut up about Apple's supposed superiority. You get what you pay for, Apple costs more, it ought to be better. Better != Divine.

Re:Apple Is Like Any Other Corporation (1)

RedK (112790) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964531)

Wait, you define better as "A dictionary app with naughty words in it" ? On a device connected to the Internet ? Seriously, why do you even need a dictionary like "Ninjawords" in the first place... Sounds like some guy just took an hour to code an app and hopes to make big bucks off it through publicity like this.

Objectionable content and Federal Prison... (0)

Panaflex (13191) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964339)

Lots of kids have these... almost every kid wants one for christmas. Cheap & free games, email and text messaging. It's not as if adults don't know these words already. Apple distributes the apps and is culpable for their content, as they are collecting the money. You bet their not going distribute "objectionable material" without some sort of filters or working rating system - nobody wants to end up in Federal Prison either.

Re:Objectionable content and Federal Prison... (1)

mdwh2 (535323) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964981)

Yes, this is why no platform has any software with naughty words in it. And Microsoft are so liable for every Windows application out there.

Oh wait, they're not. The issue with it being on their store wouldn't be an issue, if they allowed the platform to use software from anywhere, like every other platform on the planet.

Best Quote from TFA: (5, Funny)

hivemind_mvgc (823238) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964449)

"Apple requires you to be 17 years or older to purchase a censored dictionary that omits half the words Steve Jobs uses every day."

Apple declares: "F[CENSORED] it, we're evil" (1, Informative)

David Gerard (12369) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964619)

After bricking unlocked iPhones, kicking applications off the iPhone store that might even slightly compete with iTunes in the far future and charging developers for the privilege and filing a wave of patents on basic well-known computer science, Apple Inc. today filed a Form 8-K with the Securities and Exchange Commission declaring that it was openly adopting Evil(tm) as a corporate policy [today.com] .

"F*** it," said Steve Jobs to an audience of soul-mortgaged thralls, "we're evil. But our stuff is sooo good. You'll keep taking our abuse. You love it, you worm. Because our stuff is great. It's shiny and it's pretty and it's cool and it works. It's not like you'll go back to a Windows Mobile phone. Ha! Ha!"

Steve Ballmer of Microsoft was incensed at the news. "Our evil is better than anyone's evil! No-one sweats the details of evil like Microsoft! Where's your antitrust trial, you polo-necked bozo? We've worked hard on our evil! Our Zune's as evil as an iPod any day! I won't let my kids use a lesser evil! We're going to do an ad about that! I'll be in it! With Jerry Seinfeld! Beat that! A**hole."

"Of course, we're still not evil, we said so," said Sergey Brin of Google. "You can trust us on this. Every bit of data about you, your life and the house you live in is strictly a secret between you and our marketing department. But, hypothetically, if we were evil, it's not like you're going to use Windows Live Search. I mean, 'Bing.' Ha! Ha! I'm sorry, that's my 'spreading good cheer' laugh. Really."

Ban the phone app (3, Funny)

moloney (197410) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964697)

Maybe Apple should ban the phone application in the iPhone since users are currently able to communicate bad words.

Android = Open (5, Insightful)

blackfrancis75 (911664) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964705)

Wow, dozens of comments so far on this one and I'm the first smug G1 owner to point out how open the Android system is. Did I mention it was open? open, open, open

resembles communist!? (1)

BoostFab (1608809) | more than 4 years ago | (#28964887)

They their app store screening operation has becoming more like communist.

Re:resembles communist!? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28965153)

Hold it McCarthy, this ain't the fifties.

And Goatse... (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28964997)

Balked at Steve Jobs anus, as he was jealous of his diameter.

this FP for GNAA (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28965041)

flaws in the BSD And/or distribute project returns

Same story with similar app (2, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 4 years ago | (#28965165)

I'm a developper of ZenTap (video [youtube.com] ), it isn't dictionary (basically is text editor) but one of it's abilities is the text prediction.

Apple rejected one of the first versions (called FastMail) of zentap because they found some "bad" words in the predictions.

And what I've done to fix it? Nothing

I resubmit it without any changes but in the submission form there are a section(Application Rating Detail) where you have to mark things like:

  • Cartoon or Fantasy Violence NONE Infrequent Frequent
  • Realistic Violence NONE Infrequent Frequent
  • Sexual Content or Nudity NONE Infrequent Frequent
  • Profanity or Crude Humor NONE Infrequent Frequent
  • ...

Marking the diferent categories automatically are changing your app rating.

In my case I had to mark Profantiy Infrequent (this increased my app rating from +4 to +9) and it was accepted (don't look for ZenTap in Itunes, it isn't available yet).

There are no more alternatives if you want work with Apple.

Offline Wiktionary ? (1)

eulernet (1132389) | more than 4 years ago | (#28965201)

Since the author of NinjaWords submitted it to AppStore, I think he wants to makes some money from it.

This is quite unethical, because it's basically a dump of wiktionary: http://en.wiktionary.org/ [wiktionary.org]
(the dumps can be downloaded freely)
and frankly, it's not the best dictionary on the Web (see for example http://www.tfd.com/ [tfd.com] )

A free offline Wikipedia already exists for the iPhone:
http://collison.ie/wikipedia-iphone/ [collison.ie]

So, I really don't see the point of this application.

Is it so lame that it needs so much PR ?

Apple should not even allow such applications to be sold !

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