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Apple Announces Tiger Release Date

Zonk posted more than 9 years ago | from the forward-down-forward/down-punch dept.

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GatorMarc writes "Well, it's official. Tiger will be released into the wild on April 29th with more than 200 new features, including Spotlight, Dashboard, Automator, VoiceOver, Safari RSS, Core Audio, and Core Image." Additional commentary available on ThinkSecret and MacWorld.

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Can't Wait (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211609)

Can't Wait!

Re:Can't Wait (1, Interesting)

Kosmatos (179297) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211672)

Well, I can. I just received my Mac Mini a couple weeks ago (but ordered it 1.5 months ago) and am not happy to have to pay $129...

I should get this as a free upgrade.

Re:Can't Wait (1)

GizmoToy (450886) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211738)

Yea, but it's not like Apple hides their upgrade policy. The only way you get a free upgrade to the new version is if you buy the computer after the new OS's release date is announced. They've done this since at least Jaguar, if not before (relatively new Apple user).

Everyone knew Tiger was on the way, if it was the big of a deal why didn't you wait?

Tiger? Pow! (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211612)

My head just exploded.

Reviews? (3, Interesting)

salemlb (857652) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211615)

Anyone have any reviews for Tiger on any hardware platform? I'm sure Ars will have one up (complaining about the finder again) before too much longer. Anything to convince me to take my g3 700 640mb iBook to Tiger in the meantime?

Re:Reviews? (5, Funny)

Golias (176380) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211774)

Anyone have any reviews for Tiger on any hardware platform?

Sure thing. Here you go:

It's total shit on the Athlon XP 2500+. You can't even get it to boot up. Less functionality than either Linux or Windows.

I hear it works much better on other platforms, specifically Apple-built PPC systems, but you will have to look at other reviews for that information.

Still under NDA (4, Informative)

kuwan (443684) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211810)

Well, considering that it's still under NDA you're probably not going to see a lot of reviews on it. Or, you may see a lot of reviews that will then quickly disappear courtesy of Apple Legal. I did read a good one that I can't find right now (it was probably taken down) where the reviewer said that he couldn't go back to Panther after using Tiger. Tiger, even though the version he had was a little buggy, was so much faster than Panther that he'd rather live with the bugs than give up the speed. I think he was using either an iBook or a PowerBook.

Anyway, some real tests need to be done, but it's looking good so far.
--
Join the Pyramid - Free Mini Mac [freeminimacs.com]

Re:Reviews? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211847)

More rounded corners than ever! lol.

yeah.. but.. (-1, Flamebait)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211619)

Will it include Zealot++ ?

Re:yeah.. but.. (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211674)

This is Apple. It'll be ObjectiveZealot and they come in five different fruity colours. If you pull the string they each spout a different falacy:

"PPC is faster than x86!"
"MacOS X is UNIX done right!"
"MacOS X is Open Source!"
"Apple are the worlds largest single UNIX vendor!"
"I'm not gay!"

Collect all five and get the Apple Bordello Love In Playset FREE!

Apple Bordello Love In Playset not actually free.

Please explain (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211622)


how this will increase my productivity ?
will it fill in XLS spreadsheets for me, or write that appraisal so i dont have to ?

Re:Please explain (5, Informative)

Khakionion (544166) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211842)

Well, I hate to present your trolling with these pesky facts, but Apple Automator [apple.com] will definitely help with improving productivity.

I love Apple. Steve Jobs #1 (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211623)

Oh yay, I love Apple! Apple is the best! I like to kiss my iPod. Can I have my mod points, now, please?

first post! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211625)

First Post

OHMYGODTEHAPPAL!!!11! (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211627)

*fap**fap**fap**fap**fap**fap**fap**fap*

*splodge*

Now what were you saying?

Crap (3, Interesting)

grahamsz (150076) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211628)

I ordered a mini last night. Will i be able to get them to send a tiger upgrade or will that be another $100.

Mac OS Up-To-Date Program (4, Informative)

Thu25245 (801369) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211673)

Re:Crap (1)

derphilipp (745164) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211684)

No, Upgrades to Computers bought after a certain date (around a month or so) cost 16 - so 20 $ or so...

Re:Crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211686)

Apple have been pretty good about this sort of thing with previous versions of OS X. I think you'd be able to get it for the cost of postage. Really, though, it was worth waiting until it was announced. How desperately did you need the Mini anyway?

Re:Crap (1)

MacBorg (740087) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211687)

Generally, if the order was processed after the release announcement, apple will either give you a copy OR will make you pay $20 for it rather than $130... usually the latter

Re:Crap (1)

adam mcmaster (697132) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211688)

According to their site (can't find the link now, sorry) you should be able to pay a small fee for shipping and get Tiger for free when it's released.

Re:Crap (5, Insightful)

GizmoToy (450886) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211691)

If by last night you mean April 12th (after midnight), then you'll be able to get it for $10 shipping and handling. Otherwise, you're gonna have to call and talk them out of it. In fact, I'd probably call today and let them know. Who knows, you only missed the announcement by a day, maybe they'll give you a discount, or just send it for $10.

I've been waiting to purchase a mini until the announcement since I knew if you ordered beforehand you won't get a free upgrade. Off to the Apple store I go...

Re:Crap (1, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211743)

Who knows, you only missed the announcement by a day, maybe they'll give you a discount, or just send it for $10.

By all means do this. Customer service calls cost Apple money, probably more than it costs to send you a free copy, if you call they may just give it to you to get you off the phone.

You'd be amazed what you can get away with just by calling customer service and asking for it.

Re:Crap (2, Insightful)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211694)

cancel your order and replace the order.. if you call up you should be able to get this done easily.

Re:Crap (1, Informative)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211699)

According to this [yahoo.com] there will be a $9.95 upgrade available for Macs bought after April 12. So, unless you can swing something special on your own, you are not on the "official" upgrade path.

Re:Crap (1)

Kaamoss (872616) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211719)

check out here http://www.apple.com/macosx/uptodate/ [apple.com] it says people who purchased on april 12th or after will be able to upgrade for the cost of the media...which is nice as I ordered my new ibook last night...so I should qualify...I think.

Re:Crap (1)

jht (5006) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211722)

They have the "up-to-date" program, and if it was ordered from today onwards, you can get Tiger for $9.95 and a coupon. So, assuming your order datestamp was 4/11, I'd say to cancel it and re-order today.

Re:Crap (1)

scmmss (101527) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211729)

The Up-To-Date program states that any machine bought on or after April 12th qualifies for an upgrade for the cost of the media, $9.95 I think. So you don't qualify but it may be worth emailing them to check, they may be lenient and back date it a day.

Re:Crap (2, Interesting)

noisymime (816237) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211734)

and yet the mini I've been waiting over 8 weeks for (and that according to the website still isn't built) won't come with tiger :(

I just called too.... (5, Informative)

kajoob (62237) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211742)

I ordered a mini last friday, so I just called and spoke to the Apple CSR. She said any mac purchased before the announcement won't ship with Tiger and she told me about the up to date program ($9.95) upgrade. HOWEVER, it did not take any arm twisting to get her to take $10 off the purchase price of the mini so it's like I'm getting Tiger for free. Give it a try...

Apple Customer Service
1-800-676-2775

Re:Crap (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211763)

From http://www.apple.com/macosx/upgrade/ [apple.com]

"If you purchased a new Mac on or after April 12 that didn't include Tiger, you can upgrade for just the cost of the media."

More detail (and upgrade forms) here: Mac OS X - Up-To-Date Programs [apple.com]

Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211806)

Can't you just download the service pack for free when it's released?

Looks good... (1, Flamebait)

O-SUSHi (820452) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211638)

... this release of OSX looks good enough to make me want to buy a mac, alas, I have no money.

It must be extra special if the page background is black aswell >.>

Meet the world's most advanced operating system.

That however strikes me as a little bit odd.. how is it advanced? As in, advanced functions are now user friendly with the 200 new features? I guess I'm just stupid, all the more reason to buy a mac.

Re:Looks good... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211706)

I'm not quite sure what you were trying to say. Your grammer is a bit off. Maybe you could reword that so we could understand.

REPHRASED :D (1)

O-SUSHi (820452) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211783)

Rephrased: This release must be special if Apple change the MacOSX page background to black, instead of following their regular white and candy colour scheme. The list of new features is all the more reason for people, like me (windows users, to migrate to the Mac. I would like to, but the hardware is expensive, even if the OS isn't.

Meet the world's most advanced operating system.

It strikes me as odd that advanced means user-friendly of their description of their updated OS. Sure, it's all streamlined and nice looking for the user, but how is it actually advanced.

BTW, What karma level is below horrible, and how do I get it?

I use x86 PC myself... (4, Insightful)

amliebsch (724858) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211641)

But congratulations to Apple for what sounds like it will be another quality release. I personally don't plan on switching any time soon, but it pleases me to see some strong competition re-entering this marketplace. While I doubt this is the end of Microsoft, it certainly means they will have to get off their asses. The complacency of the last five years is over.

Re:I use x86 PC myself... (5, Funny)

Golias (176380) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211716)

The complacency of the last five years is over.

Now on with the complacency of the next five years!

Enjoy your wait for Longhorn, the exclusive platform of Duke Nukem Forever. ;)

Re:I use x86 PC myself... (3, Insightful)

devphaeton (695736) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211790)

Enjoy your wait for Longhorn,

Where does he say he runs Windows? ;)

Re:I use x86 PC myself... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211723)

What complacency? Between suing people, and funding "creative" surveys on Linux, Microsoft is busier than ever.

Re:I use x86 PC myself... (3, Interesting)

Threni (635302) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211826)

> While I doubt this is the end of Microsoft, it certainly means they will have
> to get off their asses.

Why - do you predict that the hundreds of millions of Windows PCs are now going to be migrated to this week's Apple product?

Re:I use x86 PC myself... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211828)

I believe the parent post is an attempt at stringing together some vapid but pleasant-sounding sentences in hopes of garnering karma.

Mac Mini update? (4, Interesting)

rylin (688457) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211643)

What I want to know is when the Mac Mini gets updated with a graphics card that CoreImage can use to its full extent.

Re:Mac Mini update? (5, Informative)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211670)

core image is an API... it will use the fasted thing on your Mac to do the rendering work.. if you have a 128 MB GFX card but the processor will get the job done faster, then it will use the processor.

Re:Mac Mini update? (2, Insightful)

pastpolls (585509) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211762)

Can you explain to me what you are doing on a Mac Mini that requires CoreImage or CoreVideo? Seems to me like these APIs were designed for video and image editing professionals, who is not the target audience for a mini.

Great... (4, Funny)

jschroering (611063) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211644)

..now we'll need to a new product to speculate about every other day!

Jimmy

Re:Great... (1)

jschroering (611063) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211765)

Hate to reply to my own post, but take a joke! I was merely poking fun at how it seems every other day someone is guessing about the release date. I myself own a G5 and probably will one of many lining up outside our local Apple store on April 29th. I've been waiting a while for this, just like everyone else. Relax.

Jimmy

I've ordered mine :) (2, Funny)

adam mcmaster (697132) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211648)

I submitted this about an hour ago, and it was rejected. Should I be offended that they accept everyone else's dupes but not mine? Ah, well.

It is interesting to note that, at least in the UK, Tiger is actually £10 cheaper than the current price for Panther (the previous release). They're also giving those who order now access to an exclusing "Online Seminar", which sounds quite interesting. I can't wait until next month when my copy arrives :)

Re:I've ordered mine :) (2, Interesting)

zev1983 (792397) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211759)

I also submitted this story. But just now I found a new feature called Inkwell http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/inkwell/ that apparently lets you use an input device like a Wacom pad to do things like gestures and to "Write anywhere."

I haven't heard of this before so I thought I'd drop a note about it.

Re:I've ordered mine :) (2, Informative)

chasingporsches (659844) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211803)

this was in panther, and i believe jaguar. if you have a tablet, even the cheap 4x5 wacom which is what i have, you can use all of inkwell's features already. a "Ink" option shows up in the system preferences once you plug in a tablet. i dont use it, though. its rather finicky, and considering my tablet isn't the same size as the screen, it overcompensates for the size and so a small letter written on my tablet becomes huge and its hard to use.

Re:I've ordered mine :) (1)

justforaday (560408) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211844)

It's entirely possible that this article was already sitting in the "mysterious future" queue when you submitted your story. The one story that I submitted took about 15 or 16 hours before it was actually published, so I wouldn't worry that it's a conspiracy against you or anything...

From ThinkSecret: (2, Informative)

larry2k (592744) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211652)

Tiger costs $129 and has finally invaded Apple's online store, where Apple is offering free shipping along with guaranteed delivery by April 29. As with Panther, a "Family Pack" version suitable for installing on up to 5 Macs in the same house is available for $199. A promotion is also being offered with iLife '05, iWork '05, and Tiger for $249.

April 30th (1)

Sebilrazen (870600) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211655)

Is the day I order the Mini then. 'Bout damn time. I didn't RTFA totally but it looks like some sweet improvements to what was already a good system.

Re:April 30th (1)

fracai (796392) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211737)

check out the Up To Date program. You can order it today and Tiger will either be a free upgrade or included in the box when you receive it.

Geez! (5, Funny)

mattmentecky (799199) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211658)

Sunday he wins the Masters Golf Tournament [masters.org] and already they are naming an OS release in his honor after him!

Hmm (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211659)

wowowow

Core Image and Mac Mini (1, Redundant)

Bob-o-Matic! (620698) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211660)

Will they update the Mac Mini's 32MB graphics to enable full hardware acceleration for Core Image? I have been waiting to switch to see what happens here.

Yes, I like to have all the goodies I want for dirt cheap (pc builder/user).

Re:Core Image and Mac Mini (4, Informative)

Rosyna (80334) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211751)

You'll still get full hardware acceleration for Core Image. It'll use whatever hardware you throw at it. If the GPU can't do it all, then whatever it can't do will be handled by the AltiVec unit(s). CoreImage is heavily optimized to the extreme max!

Adieu to Tray-Load iMacs (4, Interesting)

Uire (573281) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211662)

According to the new system requirements. [apple.com] old tray-load iMac owners, and probably old Firewire-less iBook owners too, are at the end of the OS line. While sad, this isn't entirely surprising. But, since Firewire seems to be the deciding factor, one wonders what the fate of the newer but still Firewire-less slot-load 350MHz iMacs [apple-history.com] will be.

Re:Adieu to Tray-Load iMacs (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211805)

I'm guessing the firewire requirement is only to support the Migration Assistant mode http://www.apple.com/macosx/features/setup/ [apple.com] . Can't think of any reason why the entire OS would be firewire dependant. Anyone with a developer build tried it on an older G3 Mac?

:hsugh: (0, Offtopic)

j3richo (674251) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211663)

weak.

lame naming scheme (0, Troll)

sanosuke001 (640243) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211665)

Why do they keep naming every release they send out? I think Apple is the only company I know that does this and it's kind of annoying. They try to make it sound like a whole new OS and all it is are glorified service packs; and for some reason, everyone buys into it. I wanna see Microsoft call Service Pack 2 for WinXP "Dragon" or something dumb; maybe even "Poodle"

Re:lame naming scheme (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211701)

This is the dumbest comment I have ever read.

Huh? (2)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211727)

And "Longhorn" is better?

it's kind of annoying.

So learn to be less annoyed by trivialities. Or switch to decaff.

all it is are glorified service packs

No, that's Windows you're thinking about.

and for some reason, everyone buys into it

Or maybe they are just better informed than you are.

Seriously, you can call 200 new features, some of them altering how people will use the OS in fundamental ways, a service pack?

Re:lame naming scheme (1)

the_2nd_coming (444906) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211813)

other than the fact that you state it is a glorified service pack.. what makes you think it is?

New APIs, new functions , new services... seems more than a service pack... but please Mr. Troll enlighten us all.

I know your answer:

"It is only a point release!!!"

and you know what... when you say that on /. everyone laughs at you.

Personal very Excited (3, Insightful)

monkeywork (614661) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211666)

As a recent "switcher" I've enjoyed OSX and this update improves on pretty much all the items I use day to day. I'll be purchasing it as soon as it arrives.

List of New Features (5, Informative)

ckswift (700993) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211667)

Here is the entire list of the 200+ New Features:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/newfeatures/newfeature s.html [apple.com]

Re:List of New Features (-1, Flamebait)

ZeroZen (136166) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211797)

Okay, wait a second.
Thanks for the link by the way. This is sooo cheap!

Safari does RSS now. Wow. And inline PDF? Wow.

"HTML Message Composition
Format newly composed email using HTML."

Wow. Write email. In html.

These are the new features?! MAN! I remember getting in an argument last time i posted in a mac thread about how MS is going to have to play catch up with Apple because of this document searching tool. Looks like they've been doing ALOT of catching up themselves!

Java 5 (5, Interesting)

2starr (202647) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211668)

This is great news, but the lack of mentioning Java 5 makes me think that it won't be included right away. That's sad news for me...

Re:Java 5 (4, Informative)

qwertphobia (825473) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211708)

The rumor sites are saying Java 5 is on the way also, as a separate update. This way older applications have a better chance of working on an out-of-the-box Tiger install.

Re:Java 5 (5, Informative)

XenoWolf (6057) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211761)

According to http://developer.apple.com/java/faq/ [apple.com] Java 1.5 is available to download for Tiger, albeit as a "Developer Preview" - still it's there, and will be coming soon for full release

Mail.app subscriptions? (1)

DeRobeHer (76234) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211677)

Can anyone tell me if mail.app handles imap subscriptions properly yet? Only checking for new mail in your inbox kinda stinks.

Family Pack Still Exists (4, Informative)

MBCook (132727) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211681)

Just a quick note that despite some rumors, the family pack still exists.
  • 1 Copy - $130
  • 2 Copies - $200 (Save $70)
  • 3 Copies - $200 (Save $200)
  • 4 Copies - $200 (Save $330)
  • 5 Copies - $200 (Save $500)

What a deal for multiple computer households. I can't wait. I just wish the free update for new Macs was retroactive to January's announcements.

Re:Family Pack Still Exists (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211717)

Is that Apple Math?

1 copy @ $130 X 2 = $260
2 copies @ $200 = $60 saving.

I won't even mention that in your haste to copy & paste you forgot to update the correct prices for more than 2 copies each.

Re:Family Pack Still Exists (1)

generic-man (33649) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211798)

Apple is all about choice. You can buy one copy, or you can buy five copies. The cost for 2 computers equals the cost for 3, 4, and 5 computers.

So the original poster assumed that families would otherwise buy one copy of the OS for each machine in the house. Since (as of 10.3) Apple doesn't require that you register each machine on which Mac OS X is installed, this is an Honor System thing anyway.

Re:Family Pack Still Exists (1)

greed (112493) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211811)

You know the family pack is good for up to 5 machines for $200? So 1 copy is $130, 2-5 copies are $200 total.

But the math errors in the savings column do take away from the GP's point.

Re:Family Pack Still Exists (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211780)

Apple OS software has never had any copy protection/license numbers or anything like that, so you can just use the same 1 copy as many times as you want.

Panther Upgrade (1, Troll)

Universal Indicator (626874) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211690)

I am pretty mad. I went and bought a dual 2.5 GHz G5 about a week and a half ago because I could have sworn that I read somewhere that Apple will give you a free upgrade if you bought your Mac within two months before the release date of the new OS. That was why I bought my computer when I did. But it turns out, they will only give you the free upgrade if you purchased your computer today or later.

After spending $3800 on a computer, it is pretty damn annoying to find they won't give a little room on this.

Oh well, at least I can say I was using a legal OS for a few weeks anyway *wink wink nudge nudge*

Then you are a dumb ass (3, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211772)

Let me get this right:

I could have sworn that I read somewhere that Apple will give you a free upgrade if you bought your Mac within two months before the release date of the new OS

Getting a free upgrade was part of your strategy, but you didn't check it out with the Apple Store sales person or atleast call Apple's 800 sales number to confirm? You just went on what you thought you remembered?

It doesn't even sound reasonable for Apple to offer a 60 day reach back on a free upgrade. Makes NO sense at all. Not to mention, there is no precedent for this in Apple's past (or MS for that matter).

Yeah you spent a lot ($3800) on a computer and the best you can do now is see if your week-and-a-half old computer can be returned, repurchased, and qualify for the free upgrade. If so, then perhaps they will save everyone the return trouble and give you a free upgrade.

Re:Panther Upgrade (2, Insightful)

Reaperducer (871695) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211807)

I could have sworn that I read somewhere that Apple will give you a free upgrade

Yeah, that'll hold up in court.

There has to be a cut-off somewhere, and no matter where that cut is made, someone is going to be hurt. This time it's you. I guess that's what happens when you make financial decisions based on internet rumors.

Re:Panther Upgrade (1)

cirisme (781889) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211843)

You spent $3,800 based on an unconfirmed tidbit from here, and not based on what Apple says?

Apple envy (5, Insightful)

CCelebornn (829849) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211693)

The more I see of MacOS X and the more features they put in there, the more I realise just how slow devopment on the Windows platform is. Think of the progression thats been made from Apple, then compare that to Windows. The last great leap was done with Windows 2000 IMO: but even then for the desktop users there was nothing really knew.

Spotlight, Dashboard & Automator all look like great additions. I know there are perhaps Windows alternatives, but can any of them claim to be as slick as Apples?

I'm a Windows user, but as time goes on the thought of an mac mini just to give the OS a try becomes more and more tempting.

Re:Apple envy (1)

Quiet_Desperation (858215) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211775)

But... but... but... WinXP gave us that GREAT looking new interface! :-)

thought of an mac mini just to give the OS a try becomes more and more tempting.

Do it! Step into the light! All are welcome. All are welcome.

Re:Apple envy (2, Insightful)

gl4ss (559668) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211791)

I'd rather have them upgrade Finder to be something more usable, non-blockin, non-piece-of-crap than any of those features.

Core Audio updated, not new (1)

the packrat (721656) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211703)

The Core Audio functionality is already presnt in older OS X, see all the MIDI and Audio Unit handling functionality we're all using quite happily in 10.3. Perhaps the original poster meant Core Image and Core Video.

Don't forget Core Data... (2, Interesting)

solios (53048) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211707)

As discussed in this [drunkenblog.com] Drunkenblog interview. Of the Core fillintheblanks, it's easily the spiffiest.

The other feejurs, imo, are just fluff. Unless they've sunk some serious improvements into mail, ical and iphoto.

I don't want MORE features, I want the features they're shipping to be developed beyond vestigial buzzwords (re: OpenDoc in the OS 8 era).

In in! (1)

krautcanman (609042) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211711)

I'll be one of the first to admit - I'm going to be one of those who will install it on April 29.

I'm especially looking forward to Dashboard, Quicktime 7, Mail, and (maybe) spotlight. The other features will also be a welcome bonus.

Re:In in! (1, Insightful)

argent (18001) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211730)

I'm especially looking forward to Dashboard

Why? It's pure eye-candy.

I'm looking forward to whoever is the first to liberate Dashboard applets from the stupid Dashboard layer and let them intermingle with the rest of the world.

Re:In in! (1)

DavidLeblond (267211) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211825)

That would completely destroy the purpose of Dashboard. All the things you can do in DB you can already do outside of it... so that would be a pointless task.

Then again, so is porting Linux to an Atari which I'm sure has either been done or is in progress...

Core audio... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211714)

Core audio is not new. It's been around in OSX for some time now... it sure is a fantastic feature, but it isn't a new one.

bonjour? (2, Interesting)

circusboy (580130) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211746)

I see rendezvous has been redubbed again,

nom de plume or nom du guerre?

(pardon my unpardonnáble french...)

Re:bonjour? (-1)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211840)

I believe that would be "nom du jour".

Pretty much my favorite operating system... (1)

0kComputer (872064) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211748)

Bred for its skills in magic.

Seriously though, I imagine well be seeing all these features in windows in a couple years. Pretty sad that I can't name a single feature in XP that comes close to any of these.

Department (4, Funny)

Moby Cock (771358) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211752)

from the forward-down-forward/down-punch dept.

Heh. Version 10.4.1 should be called Tiger Uppercut.

Re:Department (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#12211830)

That's wrong, anyway - it was F, D, DF+punch, just like Ryu (etc.)'s Dragon punch.

Core Data (5, Insightful)

stang7423 (601640) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211770)

Am I the only one excited about the core data technology? In every write up of Tiger I have seen so far have not mentioned this new technology.

I mean come on. It gives you save, undo and redo functionality for free, no extra coding. Plus if you make good use of cocoa bindings in interface builder you could build a complete simple application with out writing a single line of code manually. That is pretty freaking sweet.

Maybe its just the geek in me but I think its cool. Plus you can save in multiple different file formats, binary, xml, or sqllite.

More Here: http://developer.apple.com/macosx/tiger/coredata.h tml [apple.com]

64-bit doesn't include graphics! (3, Informative)

bats (8748) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211776)

Tiger finally provides 64-bit apps, right? Not quite. In their 64-bit apps overview document [apple.com] , Apple slips in the bad news. Neither the Carbon or Cocoa APIs are 64-bit, so no graphics apps can be 64-bit. Their solution is to create a 64-bit command line app and wrapper it with a 32-bit frontend, communicating through pipes, shared memory, etc.

While that's all well and good and the Unix Way, its disappointing that graphical apps should be hamstrung in such a way. If you need big memory access and OpenGL, you've got quite a few hoops to jump through. As a linux weenie who made the switch, I'm saddened by crumbs we keep getting as Apple strings us along towards 64-bit land. Linux has been 64-bit for a very long time now and even Microsoft's 64-bit XP is fully 64-bit including graphics.

At least my G5 is still the 'world's fastest personal computer'.

two for one! (1)

chipster (661352) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211784)

Not only will we be able to get our hands on Tiger on the 29th, but we'll be able to head over to the movie theaters for The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy; http://hitchhikers.movies.go.com/ [go.com]

iCal update as well? (1)

Ayars (875441) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211788)

Are they going to use this opportunity to update the to-do-list functionality of iCal? It would be great to have the do-list features of palm desktop (repeating todos, to-dos that carry over if not done, etc.) in iCal. I like the rest of iCal, but I'm still using Palm Desktop for the job list. Since the useless list from iCal syncs, this means that the do-list on my palm is useless...

Rendezvous axed... (1)

jmil (782329) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211794)

... for automatic networking, now we have Bonjour [apple.com] . What the hell?

Quoth Phil Schiller, Vice President of Worldwide Product Marketing:
"It's so easy to use, we don't even know what to call it."

Still no Java 1.5? (1)

esapersona (410106) | more than 9 years ago | (#12211809)

From the apple.com website [apple.com.au] :

Recognizing this, Apple has made Java a core component of Mac OS X. Mac OS X includes the full version of Java 2, Standard Edition, version 1.4.2 -- meaning you have the Java Developer Kit (JDK) and the HotSpot virtual machine (VM) without downloading...



Java 1.5 has been out for over 6 months now, right? Have I just missed something?
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