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Apple Releases Mac Mini

samzenpus posted more than 9 years ago | from the look-at-how-cute-it-is dept.

Technology (Apple) 1212

cranesan writes "The rumors of Apple releasing a small PC are confirmed. The Mac mini can be found at Apple's website. As expected, the box uses a G4 processor. You can order one today; estimate 3-4 weeks shipping date. Base unit starts at $499."

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wow (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347311)

I want a giga Mac instead

Dupe... (5, Informative)

Delphix (571159) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347312)

C'mon guys. This isn't news, especially since you reported it yourself here [slashdot.org]. It's just a two day old dupe of old news.

Re:Dupe... (1)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347344)

C'mon guys. This isn't news, especially since you reported it yourself here [slashdot.org]. It's just a two day old dupe of old news.


Especially since the Mac Mini was listed on Apple's site the day the story was first posted. This is hardly new confirmation.

Re:Dupe... (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347346)

Yea! Common you guys! [slashdot.org] It had a large message posting on it too.

Re:Dupe... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347451)

Yea! Common you guys! It had a large message posting on it too.

STFU, ad revenue is down, Slashdot needs page hits on their banner ads. If you weren't such a cheapskate you'd subscribe and help them out.

Re:Dupe... (1)

The Other White Boy (626206) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347353)

you know i can almost undestand a doop when its some tiny piece of news that someone could have missed, maybe it just had a few comments.

but holy cow does that ever not apply here.

Super-liminal advertising! (0, Troll)

jaredbpd (144090) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347366)

That's right! If I didn't want one two days ago, re-running the front page story about it isn't going to make me want one today.

Re:Dupe... (1)

gonzo-wireless (847083) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347397)

I guess if *someone* wanted it reported earlier, then *someone* should have submmitted it earlier. If you were there, on the front line of mac-con, why not tell us at the time?

And here are the more interesting posts: (4, Interesting)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347425)

Who in their right mind buys memory from an OEM? Don't get on Apple's case about expensive memory, because it's true in the PC world too! Whether it's Dell, Sony, IBM, whoever - you're almost always better off dollarwise to buy your system with the least available memory, then buy the upgrade from someone else. With the exception of the occasional special deal, this has been true for as long as I can remember.

Of course, this begs the question: does the mini allow user upgrades? Can't check because the Apple site isn't responding at the moment, but that little box looks to be shut tighter than a virgin's iPod.

*-*

What I see more focus on hardware design, the exact opposite of the clone fiasco. They are getting, and supporting, higher margins on their hardware because of their design engineering. No other MP3 player looks or feels as good as the iPod. The Mini looks looks like another homerun, their first small form factor PC and its uniquely Apple and great looking.

Apple's focus has shifted to perfecting the Human-Computer interface. This is what it was all about originally. They are focusing on the look and feel of products, both hardware and software.

Get the details right, and they will come.

*-*

The Mac Mini will be a perfect X-Terminal to use with a Linux box in another room. You'll have a silent and small box on your desk and the fat and loud server is down in the basement. Great.

*-*

Another thing to note. A DIN slot (car radio standard size) is 2"x7", the mini mac is 2"x6.5".

If it had a radio faceplate and a laptop drive, this would be the best car stereo ever.

*-*

Say hello to *real* "Media Center" Machine

(1) add a RAM stick BTO - cheapo
(2) add bluetooth BTO - cheapo
(3) add Wifi card BTO - cheapo
(4) sit unobtrusively to my way-cool existing TV and hook up A/V - nothin'
(5) hook to already existing wifi ADSL-powered network - nothin'
(6) bring in my already existing Sony-Ericsson Z600 - nothin'
(7) ...?
(8) Profit!

Lemme see what I get from this:

(A) iTunes playback
(B) VLC playback
(C) DVD playback
(D) UNIX development
(E) Surf web
(F) Check mail
(7) Photo slideshow
(8) Remote control via Z600 (see 2,6,A,B,C,E)
All in the living room sitting comfortably on the sofa (see D)! Yay!

*-*

INSTRUCTIONS:
1. Select proper post
2. Copy and paste into the reply box
3. Submit (no need for preview!)
4. Profit

Lightening reactions... (5, Funny)

Nexum (516661) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347314)

... in other news Microsoft unveils next generation Windows operating system... ""Windows XP".

Not Politically Correct (1, Informative)

JohnPM (163131) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347317)

PC? It's not a PC it's a Mac! *fume*

Re:Not Politically Correct (4, Informative)

gstoddart (321705) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347367)

PC? It's not a PC it's a Mac! *fume*


As much as 'PC' has come to define a machine derived from the original IBM PC, 'PC' means "Personal Computer".

Cheers

Re:Not Politically Correct (1)

loic_2003 (707722) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347389)

A Mac is a personal computer, so it is actually correct. The PC/Mac differentiation is common although incorrect, strictly speaking.

PC stands for "personal computer"... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347417)

Also, they do use PowerPC chips!

Re:Not Politically Correct (1)

CdXiminez (807199) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347428)

My Commodore 128D, 1987, had 'Personal Computer' printed on the front in large friendly letters.

Re:Not Politically Correct (1)

jellomizer (103300) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347452)

I will ignore you subject so I can get past the joke part,,,,

PC Stands for Personal Computer. Macs are PC because Macs are personal computers. They are usually located in a persons home and owned by one person. Most of the time there is only one person using a Mac at a time. So a Mac is a Personal Computer.
Normally there are 3 levels for systems (they are more but these are the major ones) PC, Workstation, Server. PC are usually used for common needs like the stuff at home. Workstations are used for businesses and sometimes have multiple people using them at the same time or handling heavier calculations, and Servers which have many people using them at the same time.
A system bought as a PC can be used as a Server and a Workstation and vice versa for all the combinations (It may be hard for some servers to be used as PCs but it is possible) the the Mac Mini is defiantly designed as a PC, as well as the eMac, and the iMac. The PowerMac G5 are designed to be workstations, and the XServes are designed to be servers.

The term PC which usually stands for wintel boxes came from IBM PC then a bunch of other companies made compatible boxes called IBM Compatible PC. Then after a while the compatibles became more popular then the IBMs So the dropped the IBM from the description, without IBM there is no need for Compatible so it just became a PC.

Old News? (2, Insightful)

kristeh1337 (759934) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347318)

I know of at least 3 people who've already ordered theirs, how is this still news? Get with the program!

Headless Alternative for Less (1, Informative)

mr.henry (618818) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347319)

This $500 Apple is still insanely overpriced.

GotApex? [gotapex.com] has a "headless Dell" on their site for $449.

Here are the specs:
2.8Ghz P4 w/800Mhz bus
256MB DDR2 SDRAM
40GB S-ATA
2 year on site warranty

Of course, if I don't get modded to hell, there will be a dozen replys from the Apple "amen corner" telling me that the Apple is a better deal, etc.

BTW, this P4 is not even a particularly hot deal. GotApex? had a Dell P4 with a 17" LCD last Sunday for $599 -- the same price as the "high end" Mac mini.

Re:Headless Alternative for Less (-1, Flamebait)

pedestrian crossing (802349) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347358)

I'm pretty sure you will be modded to oblivion. Speak the truth in the Apple section of /. at the peril of your karma (been there, done that, this is my last post in the Apple section)...

Re:Headless Alternative for Less (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347360)

Great, go and buy one today!

If you don't see the purpose behind the Mini then don't comment on it.

Re:Headless Alternative for Less (5, Interesting)

idiot900 (166952) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347363)

Yes, the Mac is more expensive in terms of raw computing power. But, a lot of people consider Mac OS X to be worth a significant premium over Windows XP.

But, most importantly, what tasks can you, as a user, do with a $500 PC that you can't with the $500 Mac?

Re:Headless Alternative for Less (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347374)

Not everything is about the Hardware Spec. If it was all about that, how many iPods vs. Dell DJ's do you think would have been sold?

I am PC and Mac guy (MCSE,CNE,CCNP) and Apple does provide tangible goods to the $499 Mac Mini that may well make it worth it to many a consumer.

Re:Headless Alternative for Less (3, Insightful)

gray code (323372) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347381)

come ON, for a PC user with a little bit of extra money sitting around who's interested in a Mac, this is a great deal. They've already got all the stuff they need to run it, it's small, unobtrusive, powerful enough to do the things Macs do (ie, get your everyday work done), and is still pretty sexy.

Yes there are cheaper alternatives, but they're not THAT much cheaper. Paying $200 more for a Mac (using your math from above) is demonstrably better than paying $500+ more for a Mac, and the user experience is going to be pretty much the same for the buyer in either case.

Re:Headless Alternative for Less (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347399)

Sure, but that "headless Dell" is fugly and everything but whisper quiet.

Re:Headless Alternative for Less (5, Insightful)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347400)

That's without a DVD-ROM or any Software except XP Home (the Mac comes with the full version of OSX not a cut down version).

So you've got to add:
XP-Pro (at least)
DVD-ROM
Quicken 2005
Office
Video editing suite

*then* start comparing prices.

Re:Headless Alternative for Less (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347401)

Yeap I see you've been modded as "flamebait" despite that being anything but a flame.

Software software software (4, Informative)

acomj (20611) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347403)

yes Its more expensive and slower, except if you value some of the excellent software it comes with and the small form factor its worth it.

imovie is an excellent video editor (enough better the compaq with various cheap editing packages)was abandoned...(Not to mention this apple machine comes with firewire, a requirement for getting video off the cam corder.)

iphoto is excellent photo storage tool.

OS X is pretty good to, but if you want a windows box go nuts..

Re:Headless Alternative for Less (5, Insightful)

CommandNotFound (571326) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347416)

This $500 Apple is still insanely overpriced.

True, but when my retired mother wants a new PC and also wants to get one of those digital cameras everyone is buying, guess which one I'm going to suggest? I'm going to suggest the $600 box that won't require me to sit in front of it removing spyware and viruses for an hour every time I visit (which I do now for my in-laws, which has decreased since I put Mozilla on that machine). I look at the mac as a Linux for the rest of them, and if it costs a few hundred more up front, so be it.

Re:Headless Alternative for Less (1, Insightful)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347427)

of course this is assuming buyers have no interest in the tiny box (which they will..) if you price a pc with a mini-case it works out around the same price as the mini and a similar spec sorry i don't have the link but i did read this somewhere honest.

No PS/2? (3, Insightful)

O-SUSHi (820452) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347333)

If they're going to make it BYODKM (or whatever it is), they could've at least included PS/2 ports...

Re:No PS/2? (0, Flamebait)

gorim (700913) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347406)

People still have ps/2 keyboards and mice ???? Let me guess, you would hook up your 10 year-old 14" SVGA monitor to it ?

Re:No PS/2? (1)

Bander (2001) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347435)

PS2 ports are so 2002. USB keyboards are readily available and cheap. Adding two PS2 ports to the Mac mini would have taken up a pretty good chunk of the backplane for very little gain.

- Bander

Re:No PS/2? (1)

DarKnyht (671407) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347448)

Apple did away with most legacy ports a long time ago. My iBook is over two years old and all it has on it is Firewire and USB, and all the machines made back then only came with USB and Firewire.

In other news (1)

Boeboe (815330) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347335)

Apple also released a new device with 20 gig HD and display that allows you to listen to music on the road. The device will be called "iPod"

But I heard about this on tuesday... (1)

mongoose(!no) (719125) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347338)

Come on, /. should be a little faster about posting NEWS. What ever happened to NEWS for nerds.

And I am planning on getting one as soon as the budget allows. All the cheap stuff that came out at Mac world looks cool, and its all cheap, but lots of little numbers added up make one big number.

Re:But I heard about this on tuesday... (1)

O-SUSHi (820452) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347398)

Yeah, but Apple has more of appeal to the metrosexual than the nerd in the 21st Century.

time to fire samzenpus (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347339)

I hear the wayback machine could use some contributors.

Rumours? (0, Redundant)

Lurker McLurker (730170) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347340)

Er, the Mac mini has been on Apple's site for the last two days or so. Talk about a dupe, this has been the main topic of discussion on slashdot for most of the past week!

As Cmndrtaco would say: Lame.

Huh? (2, Funny)

martinX (672498) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347347)

What? Another mini?

Re:Huh? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347390)

There 10 kinds of people on this planet, the kind that can read binary and the other

Steve Jobs does it again (-1, Redundant)

Dancin_Santa (265275) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347349)

Steve Jobs is perhaps the greatest computer company CEO of all time. His company puts out the best hardware available today. The software delivered by Apple is second to none (especially compared to Windows *yecch*)

I await each MacWorld for product introductions and can't get enough of the Mac rumor sites.

I own the original iPod, the iPod mini, and the iPod shuffle. It shuffles and doesn't need an LCD!

From the lowest level of Mac Mini to the highest level of XServe rack servers, Apple products are "insanely great". Steve Jobs is the one who brought this all together.

I'd like to meet the man in person one day. I've only had opportunity to see his live casts at MacWorld. What an opportunity to meet one of the most influential shapers of our computing experience today.

Re:Steve Jobs does it again (1)

kristeh1337 (759934) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347375)

Is this part of a new trend in slashdot fellatio?

Re:Steve Jobs does it again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347409)

Actually I think Steve reads /. regularly. He posts as Dancin Santa or something of the like..

Re:Steve Jobs does it again (0, Offtopic)

camcloud1 (758094) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347392)

Jesus. I like Apple as much as the next guy but it's a wonder Steve Jobs doesn't take a restraining order out against you.

Re:Steve Jobs does it again (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347438)

Cobblers !

samzenpus? (3, Interesting)

FrenZon (65408) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347355)

Anyone notice that all the stories on the front page are now listed as posted by 'samzenpus'? The fact that such a glaringly obvious dupe was posted kinda raised the 'this website has been hacked' alarm.

Re:samzenpus? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347376)

The plot thickens!

Interesting... I dont think they were posted by samzenpus yesterday...

Re:samzenpus? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347380)

he's on the 8 to 8 overnight shift now

Re:samzenpus? (1)

jaredbpd (144090) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347387)

But if it's a hack, where are the funny MS Paint Graphics and the glaring spelling errors? Pretty weak hack...

In Other News ... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347364)

In other news Slashdot announces the release of Windows 3.1 !

Fucking shit NO!!! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347371)

This decreases the value of my Mac!!!

Re:Fucking shit NO!!! (1)

DenDave (700621) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347450)

Don't tell me you dished out on a G5 imac? Awe that would hurt.. Anyone notice how for 1500 you get the Mini and a 20 Inch (sexy) cinema display? Dang that's why they hacked the price of those monitors last week!!

Previous link and Financial results (5, Informative)

Lord Satri (609291) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347372)

This was previously discussed on this Slashdot story [slashdot.org]. Also of interest is this announcement :

Apple announced their financial results for the fourth quarter today, reporting a profit of $295M, or $0.70 per share. They shipped 4.58M iPods, an increase of 525 % over the year ago quarter. But more surprisingly, Apple CPU sales were up 26% themselves over the year ago quarter. Over 1,046,000 Macs went found their way into customer's hands in the quarter.
See http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jan/12results .html [apple.com]

After reading comments from the other /. story discussing the Mac Mini, I believe this Mac Mini is doomed for a **huge** success. Good for competition. Good for everyone :-)

Re:Previous link and Financial results (2, Interesting)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347424)

I bought one as soon as they were announced.

I'm a PC person really but have been looking to do the mac-thing for a while... at this price it's definately a winner.

What is this, a troll? (2)

utexaspunk (527541) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347373)

Come ON... this story was obviously posted just to get a thousand "DUPE!" comments...

Slashdot: -1, Troll

Experiences? (1)

BenjyD (316700) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347379)

I might end up needing a Mac soon (software for work only Mac/Windows and I'm not working in Windows). I've played around with eMacs, which this looks to be similar in performance to, but never worked seriously on one.

Anybody out there used an eMac for development work? Upgraded to 512mb, are they usable for general C/C++ development or is the Powermac the only way to go for anything beyond email and word processing?

Kinda meager on the specs... (0, Troll)

PornMaster (749461) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347383)

When you start with the 1.42 GHz, up it to a gig of RAM, a superdrive, bluetooth, wireless keyboard and mouse, and give it a 3 year warranty, it's up to $1422, you don't have nifty Mac stuff like video-in, and you have a CPU that compares to what was out a few years ago.

Is this really a good deal?

Re:Kinda meager on the specs... (1)

Tony Hoyle (11698) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347445)

Go with the basic. Get the RAM and keyboard from 3rd parties.. a *lot* less than $1422.

3 year warranty is pointless - I'd have the lid off within 30 minutes.

Thank God! (1, Redundant)

Roofus (15591) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347393)

I'm so glad you posted this to confirm the mac mini. Watching Steve Jobs on stage introducing it just wasn't enough to make me believe it was true.

I think Slashdot is getting retarded.

WTF!!! What a obvious dupe! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347394)

We all posted over 1900 comments on Tuesday.
Then here same subject again.
Moderators stop smoking crack and wake up from letargy.
You just fucked up my day at 8 a.m with this old news.

Old (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347396)

Just three weeks ago a tsunami killed over 60.000 people.

Doesn't anyone check these articles before they get published?

How many would it take... (1)

Epistax (544591) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347402)

...to fill a burning Volkswagen Beetle plunging off a bridge? Would they be able to store a library of congress on the way down?

welcome to last week (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347405)

welcome to last week fuckass!

And now... (1, Funny)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347408)

Imagine a random university lab buying 10.000 of these boxes to make a beowulf cluster out of them...

Moving toward the pc? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347410)

The apple website seems to claim that after you "plug in your usb mouse and keyboard" you can connect your cameras and devices, etc... But only having two usb ports seems to limit what you can do. Yeah, you can add a usb hub, but it seems that the clean mac image seems to stop with the case, after that, you're just going to have a bunch of of aftermarket parts hooked onto a pretty apple device.

This isn't "isn't" (3, Insightful)

Himring (646324) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347412)

This is so much not news, that all the redundant posts saying this isn't news isn't news, and even this post isn't a post. As a matter of fact, I'm questioning "isn't" right now, cuz it just "isn't" ... is it?

Wake up early? (1, Redundant)

slowtech (12134) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347414)

From the cryogenic freeze you put yourself in on Tuesday?

How lame is this for a dupe?

Gigabyte Macs! (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347415)

Taiwanese (crap manufacturers IMHO) Gigabyte and Abit will probably soon start releasing cheapo Macs too. Where are we heading? When will we see these at Wallmart?

WoW Req. (1)

Fr05t (69968) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347418)

I'm just upset it doesn't meet the min. req. for World of Warcraft. I was seriously considering buying one if it did. Maybe down the road when I need a computer for browsing the web, and email I'll get one.

Re:WoW Req. (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347443)

Actually, it does meet the minimum requirements, just get a simple RAM upgrade - conveniently easy to select when purchasing.

It's ALL about the software, stupid! (5, Interesting)

simon_hibbs2 (792812) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347420)

All the price comparisons I've seen, including the 'in-depth' analysis on CNet, talk purely about the value of the hardware. (BTW, theirs is bogus, because they compare to boxes with crappy integrated graphics and no DVD player). The attraction of the Mac is in the software, mainly iLife. This is why people buy computers - to do stuff. Of the news site anayses I've seen, most of them don't even mention the bundled iLife software at all, yet it's the core of the digital lifestyle that Apple are selling. This is why comparisons of Windows PCs and Macs are nearly uniformly missing the point. A Mac isn't realy in the same product category as a PC. It's more like the product category of digital cameras, synthesisers and DVD players. Simon Hibbs

and how about that logo? (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347429)

Also, the logo/icon next to the story is G5? Sigh. If only it were true.......

Thank you, samzenpus! (1)

dukethug (319009) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347430)

I have been part of a sensory deprivation experiment for the past four months, and was unaware of the rumors about this so-called "mac mini." I like that slashdot is filling the important niche of news outlets that are looking out for those of us in the sensory deprivation and/or cave dwelling community.

Come to think of it, weren't you in the sensory deprivation experiment with me?

Flamebait (-1, Troll)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347432)

This duplicate just shows how much contempt the lazy slashdot editors have for their readers.

Samzenpus? Slashdot hacked? (-1, Offtopic)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347437)

Who is samzenpus and why are all the front page slashdot stories posted by him?

Costly (-1, Flamebait)

northcat (827059) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347439)

You can get much better PCs for $499. And here, some assemblers are even selling better PCs *with* monitor and all that shit. So macs *are*, in fact, costly.

The news is (2, Interesting)

terminal.dk (102718) | more than 9 years ago | (#11347442)

That the machine has sold very well, and that the shipping date for new orders are no longer Jan 22nd, but 3-4 weeks.

Luckily, my order got through early, so mine is expected to ship Jan 28th or earlier. This is pretty good since official release in Denmark is 29th.

But I want my Mac Mini to include... (0)

Anonymous Coward | more than 9 years ago | (#11347444)

... a floppy drive, you insensitive clod!

Er, wait. The last time I used a Mac, you had to pry out a floppy with a paper clip when it froze, due to the lack of a physical eject button.

*ducks*
*runs*
*trips over box of single button mice*
*gets up and runs more*

It does look cool, I'll admit.

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